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Getting Invalid/Redundant Bans Removed - Joey Skylynx - 01-10-2015 Your name: Joey Skylynx Your ban ID(s): 2449, 5179, 5725, 5772, 6977, 7044, 10679, 10978, 12676 Banned by: 2449 - Andreas | 5179 - Shadow | 5725 - Toby | 5772 - Toby | 6977 - Private Toast | 7044 - Blackdog | 10679 - MikeyTheFox | 10978 - Killjoy | 12676 - Zzzzap Reason: All reasons and otherwise will be listed in the "Why we should unban you" Involved: All admins that are listed above, including anyone who was involved in my original threads regarding unbans. Why we should unban you: Quote:2449 | "Propclimbing" | Andreas Quote:5179 | "Modifying car and public building" | Shadow Quote:5725 | "Yell raid next time k? thanks" | Toby Quote:5772 | "Swearing in OOC" | Toby Quote:6977 | "(ban lifted before expired) Ban req approved" | PrivateToast << 1st Ban [Removed to Get Evidence] >> Quote:10978 | "12 priors, FailRP, random raiding, ignoring admins" | Killjoy Please do understand that I am not trying to be unbanned, but rather have the many questionable if not wrong bans I have cleared off my record. I have provided a great deal of evidence for several of these bans, and if any bans need any more information, please feel free to ask for it. RE: Getting Invalid/Redundant Bans Removed - Enzyme - 01-10-2015 The main issue with all of these bans are that they are very old and that many of the banning admins are no longer with us on FL. Trying to appeal several year old bans will not tip in your favor just because you've waited to appeal these bans, it's rather the opposite. There needs to be valid evidence to prove your innocence to have a ban removed. You writing sentences years after receiving a ban doesn't prove your innocence. Therefore, previous UBRs will play a major role in the decision-making. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ban ID 5772: UBR for this ban: http://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=8113 You were banned for "swearing in OOC". The banning administrator (Toby) explains in this UBR how he found your word-usage unacceptable and how you broke the rules. This ban is 4 years old and there's little point to argue with a ban that's this old. The banning administrator saw that you broke the rules and I don't see how this ban is valid. You simply broke the rule here. Also, second UBR for a one day ban which is against the rules. This ban has been decided on already. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BanID: 12676 Previous UBR: http://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=17407 Previous UBR (second UBR): http://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=17702 Previous UBR (third UBR): http://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=21703 3 year old ban. It was denied in your previous UBR and I hardly see how what you did was acceptable at that time. Many of the details here are lost with the age and absence of administrators long gone. Also, this ban has been reviewed three times already. That ban will remain on your record. As for the "Multiple account" ban, there's no way it's being removed. You have yourself under several circumstances not only informed about having several accounts you use to play on our servers, but you've also bragged about this. There's no secret that you've double-accounted on our servers, both ignoring our in-game rules and Terms of Service. Showing both disrespect towards the rules, TOS and the staff-team. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BanID 10978 Previous UBR: http://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=14890 Previous UBR was denied by the banning administrator. I don't see you presenting any evidence proving how the ban is invalid. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BanID 5725: Investigation pending. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reading your UBR (as that's what it essentially is) I see that you're appealing old bans where words are your only evidence, why are you trying to have so many of these old bans removed and why should we believe your statements? We're talking bans which are several years old and where evidence has disappeared with age. We cannot know 100% if you're telling the truth or lies, so why should we take the word from someone who was previously permabanned on the forum, and someone with the reputation that you have? I'm afraid that I don't see why we're going to remove several of these old bans. You're argumenting with how you're innocent and that the ban was a mistake, and there's nothing nor no-one to prove you wrong because the ban is simply so old. That doesn't mean that the UBR will go in your favor. I fail to see any real evidence to prove your innocence here. I'm hardly seeing any real evidence at all. With the title of your thread, you're claiming that these bans are either invalid or redundant but I really fail to see how this is (Ie banID 12676 where it was decided on 3 times). With this thread, you make me wonder: Are you ultimately attempting to appeal the bans so you can play on our servers again? Quote:Please do understand that I am not trying to be unbanned, but rather have the many questionable if not wrong bans I have cleared off my record. I have provided a great deal of evidence for several of these bans, and if any bans need any more information, please feel free to ask for it. Many of these bans have already been discussed in the courthouse and which have been denied. I fail to recognize the great deal of evidence that you claim you've given us. If you got any solid evidence to prove your innocence with these bans then please present them now. Note: There's a difference between argumenting about the situation about a ban that's 3-4 years old and actual solid evidence. Don't mix "argumentation" and "evidence" up as these are two completely different things. RE: Getting Invalid/Redundant Bans Removed - Joey Skylynx - 01-10-2015 10978 and 12676 were both declared undone at a latter date by the invoking adminstrator: http://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=44951 Quote:It was denied in your previous UBR and I hardly see how what you did was acceptable at that time.What exactly did I do wrong? Civil protest is a civil protest. We never raided the government, instead we protested in the city street until the president actually gave in to our demands. He was later raided by a bunch of Corleones who were not related to us. Quote: You have yourself under several circumstances not only informed about having several accounts you use to play on our servers, but you've also bragged about this.Did I not mention that I told Killjoy the usernames that I was using so he could ban them, and never questioned him on it. Failing to see the problem here. Quote:The banning administrator (Toby) explains in this UBR how he found your word-usage unacceptable and how you broke the rules. This ban is 4 years old and there's little point to argue with a ban that's this old. The banning administrator saw that you broke the rules and I don't see how this ban is valid. You simply broke the rule here.I fail to see Toby's reasoning for said ban at the time, and still do. I told someone not to act like a cu*t if they don't want people to smite them. What's wrong with that statement? And once again, I have mentioned several times that this is the reason as to why I want these bans removed from the record, because I'm not filing for an unban, but just to get some stuff removed from record that was otherwise pretty bad judgements. And I'm getting bans off my record to of course play on the server again, but first of all I'm getting these crud bans off my record as they tend to give wrong information. My record is far from 13 bans, and whenever I try to talk about a possible unban request, it gets shot down on that, and that alone. RE: Getting Invalid/Redundant Bans Removed - Enzyme - 01-10-2015 (01-10-2015, 05:26 AM)Joey Skylynx Wrote: 10978 and 12676 were both declared undone at a latter date by the invoking adminstrator: http://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=44951 RE: Getting Invalid/Redundant Bans Removed - Enzyme - 01-10-2015 (01-10-2015, 05:26 AM)Joey Skylynx Wrote:Quote:The banning administrator (Toby) explains in this UBR how he found your word-usage unacceptable and how you broke the rules. This ban is 4 years old and there's little point to argue with a ban that's this old. The banning administrator saw that you broke the rules and I don't see how this ban is valid. You simply broke the rule here.I fail to see Toby's reasoning for said ban at the time, and still do. I told someone not to act like a cu*t if they don't want people to smite them. What's wrong with that statement? You still broke the rules when you used this word. Simple as that. The banning administrator found the ban valid, and so do I. You broke the rules at this time. Your tone towards the other player was insultive and unwanted. The reason why you get shot down when you want to discuss a possible UBR is because of the major rule-breakages, TOS breakages and attitude you've shown both towards Fearless and the staff-team. RE: Getting Invalid/Redundant Bans Removed - Fultz - 01-10-2015 Case reviewed and concluded. Closing notes: All of these bans that you are contesting are from 2012 and or older. All most the whole entire staff was not even staff for this time period and you cannot expect the ones who were staff to remember every detail to each of your bans. As of right now the only thing we have to go off of is your word regarding these bans and with that being said, that is not enough for these all to be removed from your record. I could do the same exact thing and make appeals for each of my old bans from 2011, but I do not expect say Flame to come on here and defend against a ban from that time period. Denied. |