Devas
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(02-27-2021, 04:04 AM)Tim Wrote:
(02-27-2021, 03:35 AM)Zharkan16 Wrote:
(02-26-2021, 08:20 PM)Conn Wrote: My only question to you is this: why was an example necessary?

From my perspective, that seems like a cheap excuse, I just can't see the logic or thought process behind it. You should know better now, with 369 hours.
Apparently, the topic of the whole conversation they were having was racism in the first place, not sure why that was even the topic but it was, now is it fair for them to lead someone on to talk about a subject then try to act like that person was being racist?

If I see someone being racist I wouldn't have a convo with him about it so obviously that's not how it started and if they really wanted to record it, I'm sure their recording would gather AS MUCH EVIDENCE to prove they really meant it and were being racist not a 7 SECOND CLIP which has no context which is the main reason I believe its a set up because I know Tim's prior interactions with Devas and even tim's replies are making it seem like oh Devas is a racist and said bad things when in reality there's no context in the video and clearly time hates devas and if you have chat logs look at the things tim says to devas even what he said to me about devas? 

My issue here is first off the ban is not beneficial to anyone but it is not fair to everyone, if you really want to do a ban I would honestly vouch for them all being banned for having a conversation about this topic or ban nobody because there is a lack of evidence, there's just proof of him saying xyz but that was not the conversation and it was not directed towards them because literally none of them are black not even ingame so LOGICALLY if none of them are black irl or ingame WHY is this being said? 

Something is missing which is why I believe that there is a lack of evidence and I feel like it's just a revenge method for them because two people there are Tim and Thomas which were both basing together when they got raided by Devas that night Tim raged and they are close friends and I would say look into it and don't take a literal 7-second clip as evidence because there was obviously a chat before and after it didn't just come out of nowhere which therefore leads to the "evidence" they provided taken out of context 

And again I do not agree with the example but, if I was asked what defines racism I would have probably said for example if you say you cant do xyz with me because of your race or so on that is racist and you can clearly see how if that was said with voice it sooooooe easy to take out of context


Also I am not choosing sides simply because OH I base with Devas sometimes because honestly that's not it the reason this is bothering me is because literally as someone who has taken L's for other people's lies before I feel like this is a bs report and it wasn't even random people reporting him for it, it was literally the person who has been mad at him for raiding him several times which makes it a "set up" to me and it isn't fair for devas if this is the case and as staff I think you should be fair not just because OH there's evidence of something being said without context (LITERALLY 7 SECONDS OF A WHOLE CONVERSATION THEY APPARENTLY HAD) = the story is true 
this honestly bothers me
My issue is you weren’t even there nor online, so see your way out of the conversation. Like honestly. Everything you say is irrelevant. The fact that your even trying is just annoying. I get he’s your friend but you weren’t there or involved. And the clip is 10 second long by the way. The fact that your defending someone who was racist is also concerning. Nothing you or anyone say can justify what he said. It was wrong. End of story. Even something was “missing” he still said what he said it doesn’t change anything or justify it. It’s still racist and against the rules. Your references of past gaming experience and basing it off this is also completely irrelevant. It has nothing to do with this whatsoever.


Tim I dont need to be there I know u and I know thomas and u raged AT ME for devas raiding u, u also raged in OOC for him raiding u as a cop... so ik u hate him
NOW what I am saying is IF you are saying devas is being racist are you trying to tell me that the whole convo you had you didn't decide to record BUT when he said those things u recorded ONLY FOR 7 SECONDS??? There was more to the convo BEFORE and AFTER the 7 seconds which you decided wasn't important enough for your case which is what bothers me
Fyi he is not my friend I don't have him on steam nor on discord, I do have thomas tho? Isnt thomas ur friend too? Isnt thomas the guy who helped u set him up too in the video who told u to record?

If you guys know racism is against the rules why are 3 of you by you I mean you and your friends there with him talking about the topic of racism?
so let me simplify

What was said before and after the 7 second clip?
Why didn't you record more after the 7 seconds to get more 'evidence'?
Why is the topic of the convo even racism?


I am not saying what he said is right but then again what he was saying was an example of racism not being racist towards you or anyone and I said before I do agree he went waaaaaay extra than he should've and he did acknowledge that too but again I find it suspicious that 2 people he raided, 1 of them raged about getting raided by him several time all go up to him to have a controversial conversation where the only proof they have is 7 seconds of only what he said and nobody else speaking however in chat literally one of you said to record a bit back so clearly you were there GATHERING "evidence" to do this it wasn't random and it wasn't him just randomly saying it

that is my point Smile I do not need to be there to see that this is lacking context and that in my opinion you intentionally went there SEEKING this piece of evidence


Messages In This Thread
Devas - by Devas - 02-26-2021, 06:45 PM
RE: Devas - by Zharkan16 - 02-26-2021, 07:38 PM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-26-2021, 08:46 PM
RE: Devas - by Devas - 02-26-2021, 09:02 PM
RE: Devas - by Zharkan16 - 02-27-2021, 03:13 AM
RE: Devas - by Conn - 02-26-2021, 08:20 PM
RE: Devas - by Devas - 02-26-2021, 09:04 PM
RE: Devas - by Zharkan16 - 02-27-2021, 03:35 AM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-27-2021, 04:04 AM
RE: Devas - by Zharkan16 - 02-27-2021, 04:21 AM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-26-2021, 09:15 PM
RE: Devas - by Devas - 02-26-2021, 09:17 PM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-26-2021, 10:21 PM
RE: Devas - by Devas - 02-26-2021, 11:25 PM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-26-2021, 10:35 PM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-26-2021, 11:04 PM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-26-2021, 11:13 PM
RE: Devas - by Devas - 02-26-2021, 11:27 PM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-26-2021, 11:28 PM
RE: Devas - by Devas - 02-26-2021, 11:30 PM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-26-2021, 11:31 PM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-26-2021, 11:33 PM
RE: Devas - by Devas - 02-26-2021, 11:33 PM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-26-2021, 11:35 PM
RE: Devas - by Devas - 02-26-2021, 11:36 PM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-26-2021, 11:37 PM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-26-2021, 11:39 PM
RE: Devas - by Devas - 02-26-2021, 11:41 PM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-26-2021, 11:52 PM
RE: Devas - by Devas - 02-26-2021, 11:55 PM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-27-2021, 12:02 AM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-27-2021, 12:15 AM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-27-2021, 04:37 AM
RE: Devas - by Zharkan16 - 02-27-2021, 04:44 AM
RE: Devas - by Zharkan16 - 02-27-2021, 04:40 AM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-27-2021, 04:47 AM
RE: Devas - by Zharkan16 - 02-27-2021, 04:52 AM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-27-2021, 04:56 AM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-27-2021, 05:04 AM
RE: Devas - by Zharkan16 - 02-27-2021, 05:10 AM
RE: Devas - by Zharkan16 - 02-27-2021, 05:14 AM
RE: Devas - by Tim - 02-27-2021, 05:27 AM
RE: Devas - by MasterNoda - 02-27-2021, 09:58 AM
RE: Devas - by Conn - 02-27-2021, 12:48 PM

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