V2D

[Chumps]

Adding V2D back will repopulate the server. Shithead Passive RPer's opinions should be completely ignored like they have been ignoring Aggressive RPers opinions for years now. Just build your shit casino in Cub foods like the unless Admin RPers before you.

(Forgee + every other sub-human passive RPer who would rather RP with 2 people on a shit map than have a full server)

There's a difference between aggressiveRP and agressive bullshittery, the one you're refering to sounds alot like aggressive bullshittery cause there is no RP behind that, only shooting on top of shooting.

What the actual fuck are you even talking about? Did you mean to reply to someone else?

Adding V2D back will repopulate the server. Shithead Passive RPer's opinions should be completely ignored like they have been ignoring Aggressive RPers opinions for years now. Just build your shit casino in Cub foods like the unless Admin RPers before you.

(Forgee + every other sub-human passive RPer who would rather RP with 2 people on a shit map than have a full server)

Basewars should be a bit further up in the gamemode list, as it seems like that's what you're looking for.

EDIT: I also kinda want to mention, a lot of you are going "omg we need stuff to happen apart from the map change" without actually saying WHAT stuff you want to happen. Like what do you expect, staff to wave a magic wand around and fix the server?

Telling aggressive RPers to leave definitely worked the last 20 times FL has done it right? Wait the server is dead because no Aggressive RPers are active anymore. Man, who would have thought pushing away the largest supporters of a community would be bad :/

EDIT: you are a dumbass

 
"aggressiveRP'rs arent active anymore", i believe you meant to say "agressive bullshitters aren't active anymore"

[Pollux]

Adding V2D back will repopulate the server. Shithead Passive RPer's opinions should be completely ignored like they have been ignoring Aggressive RPers opinions for years now. Just build your shit casino in Cub foods like the unless Admin RPers before you.

(Forgee + every other sub-human passive RPer who would rather RP with 2 people on a shit map than have a full server)

There's a difference between aggressiveRP and agressive bullshittery, the one you're refering to sounds alot like aggressive bullshittery cause there is no RP behind that, only shooting on top of shooting.

What the actual fuck are you even talking about? Did you mean to reply to someone else?

Adding V2D back will repopulate the server. Shithead Passive RPer's opinions should be completely ignored like they have been ignoring Aggressive RPers opinions for years now. Just build your shit casino in Cub foods like the unless Admin RPers before you.

(Forgee + every other sub-human passive RPer who would rather RP with 2 people on a shit map than have a full server)

Basewars should be a bit further up in the gamemode list, as it seems like that's what you're looking for.

EDIT: I also kinda want to mention, a lot of you are going "omg we need stuff to happen apart from the map change" without actually saying WHAT stuff you want to happen. Like what do you expect, staff to wave a magic wand around and fix the server?

Telling aggressive RPers to leave definitely worked the last 20 times FL has done it right? Wait the server is dead because no Aggressive RPers are active anymore. Man, who would have thought pushing away the largest supporters of a community would be bad :/

EDIT: you are a dumbass

I'm not saying all AggRPers should leave, just the ones who are stubborn and unable to compromise on things are likely better off just leaving instead of contributing nothing at all to a big issue. I think a lot of people here have to realise that a map change to V2D is extremely unlikely. V4B1 won a vote by quite a big majority and constant map switches has proven it's not the solution to low population but rather is just being used as an excuse to bigger issues.

What else apart from the map do you think FL needs to change/do? I'm also curious on why you think AggRPers have been "pushed away"? Like if anything, you guys have received a lot more major update wise than PassiveRP last year.

[Sentinel]

Adding V2D back will repopulate the server. Shithead Passive RPer's opinions should be completely ignored like they have been ignoring Aggressive RPers opinions for years now. Just build your shit casino in Cub foods like the unless Admin RPers before you.

(Forgee + every other sub-human passive RPer who would rather RP with 2 people on a shit map than have a full server)

There's a difference between aggressiveRP and agressive bullshittery, the one you're refering to sounds alot like aggressive bullshittery cause there is no RP behind that, only shooting on top of shooting.

What the actual fuck are you even talking about? Did you mean to reply to someone else?

Adding V2D back will repopulate the server. Shithead Passive RPer's opinions should be completely ignored like they have been ignoring Aggressive RPers opinions for years now. Just build your shit casino in Cub foods like the unless Admin RPers before you.

(Forgee + every other sub-human passive RPer who would rather RP with 2 people on a shit map than have a full server)

Basewars should be a bit further up in the gamemode list, as it seems like that's what you're looking for.

EDIT: I also kinda want to mention, a lot of you are going "omg we need stuff to happen apart from the map change" without actually saying WHAT stuff you want to happen. Like what do you expect, staff to wave a magic wand around and fix the server?

Telling aggressive RPers to leave definitely worked the last 20 times FL has done it right? Wait the server is dead because no Aggressive RPers are active anymore. Man, who would have thought pushing away the largest supporters of a community would be bad :/

EDIT: you are a dumbass

I'm not saying all AggRPers should leave, just the ones who are stubborn and unable to compromise on things are likely better off just leaving instead of contributing nothing at all to a big issue. I think a lot of people here have to realise that a map change to V2D is extremely unlikely. V4B1 won a vote by quite a big majority and constant map switches has proven it's not the solution to low population but rather is just being used as an excuse to bigger issues.

What else apart from the map do you think FL needs to change/do? I'm also curious on why you think AggRPers have been "pushed away"? Like if anything, you guys have received a lot more major update wise than PassiveRP last year.

Ngl you changed the weapon stats because you didn’t win all the time and ruined aggressiveRP it’s only just gone back to being fair with rickets and wolven changing it no one has even complained about it. So don’t blame it on AgressiveRP’ers there should be balance between aggressive and passive.

[ryan!]

Adding V2D back will repopulate the server. Shithead Passive RPer's opinions should be completely ignored like they have been ignoring Aggressive RPers opinions for years now. Just build your shit casino in Cub foods like the unless Admin RPers before you.

(Forgee + every other sub-human passive RPer who would rather RP with 2 people on a shit map than have a full server)

Basewars should be a bit further up in the gamemode list, as it seems like that's what you're looking for.

EDIT: I also kinda want to mention, a lot of you are going "omg we need stuff to happen apart from the map change" without actually saying WHAT stuff you want to happen. Like what do you expect, staff to wave a magic wand around and fix the server?

Telling aggressive RPers to leave definitely worked the last 20 times FL has done it right? Wait the server is dead because no Aggressive RPers are active anymore. Man, who would have thought pushing away the largest supporters of a community would be bad :/

EDIT: you are a dumbass

I'm not saying all AggRPers should leave, just the ones who are stubborn and unable to compromise on things are likely better off just leaving instead of contributing nothing at all to a big issue. I think a lot of people here have to realise that a map change to V2D is extremely unlikely. V4B1 won a vote by quite a big majority and constant map switches has proven it's not the solution to low population but rather is just being used as an excuse to bigger issues.

What else apart from the map do you think FL needs to change/do? I'm also curious on why you think AggRPers have been "pushed away"? Like if anything, you guys have received a lot more major update wise than PassiveRP last year.

1. Why can Passive Rpers be stubborn? They don't give up their map? Why is that different?
2. v4b1 had 15 votes on the original thread lol (pines won) (they split v2d votes between classic and sexy so it wouldn't win)
3. FL only has changed maps like 4 times wtf are you talking about? And the only player-base dropped happened when they took it off of v2d after pines
4. I commented my opinion and got told change servers? What do you mean you are pushing away aggressive RPers?
5. The fact there is nowhere to aggressive RP on the map is a big deal, no small gun updates is going to help that. 

I don't know if you think you are talking to someone who joined in 2015, but you don't know anything you are talking about so just stfu and don't reply to me again if you are going to be worthless.

[Ranger]

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I'm not saying all AggRPers should leave, just the ones who are stubborn and unable to compromise on things are likely better off just leaving instead of contributing nothing at all to a big issue. I think a lot of people here have to realise that a map change to V2D is extremely unlikely. V4B1 won a vote by quite a big majority and constant map switches has proven it's not the solution to low population but rather is just being used as an excuse to bigger issues.

What else apart from the map do you think FL needs to change/do? I'm also curious on why you think AggRPers have been "pushed away"? Like if anything, you guys have received a lot more major update wise than PassiveRP last year.

By changing the government to have free weapons, without even a chance of them dropping. Buffing the M4 to beyond belief, nerfing the galil, and most criminal weapons. This completely lowered the skill gap between and aggressive RPer with 1k hours and a 10 hour cop or sru; therefore pushing aggressive RPers away.

FL needs to begin to promote passive RP, through appointing an event manager, having staff that are willing to create mini events on the main server that are inclusive to all players.

[Jan]

Ryan is right, get that shit out of your ears and listen.

[Awestruck]

Judging from Ryan's post, it seems to me that it's been forgotten that we did have V2D after Pines City crashed and burned. V2D at the time was brilliant. At the start anyway. Less and less people began to play, people abused a broken contraband update (not totally at the fault of the players), roleplay was decreasing sharply, shoot-outs 24/7. Understandably, the aggressive "role-players" loved it and want it back now. I will give credit to that, the shoot-outs were great fun. However, there must be a balance for this Gamemode not to turn into Basewars. That is when we reverted to V4B1 because it was a map we knew worked. The constant basewars was a big point for moving back to V4B1 as it was made very vocal by a lot of the community (alongside V2D being a temporary arrangement whilst we found a replacement for Pines).

Please see the Community Vote on the issue.
https://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=88539

[TheMJ]

-V2D if you look at all the top servers on gmod they all have Mining/bitcoin ways that money can be earned, to drive more player base onto the server we need ways to make more money. ive seen people suggest scrap metal seller but that is the worst idea i have ever heard who would just crash their car on purpose to get a little bit of scrap metal and a bit of money we need ways of making money fun and enjoyable. Then what you need to do it so bring back old veterans who used to play FL and offer them ingame items to draw them back in. We should change the map ASAP the map coded is making has no due date and tbh the server is dying as we speak while we wait for a map why dont we test a few maps out and see what draws players in?

A map circus solves nothing.

Ok let the server die.

There are many other alternatives to save and re-populate the server, that's pretty damn obvious.

You really are starting to get on my nerves every post that I see from you. Put your opinion across without being sarcastic or annoying please?

[Pollux]

Adding V2D back will repopulate the server. Shithead Passive RPer's opinions should be completely ignored like they have been ignoring Aggressive RPers opinions for years now. Just build your shit casino in Cub foods like the unless Admin RPers before you.

(Forgee + every other sub-human passive RPer who would rather RP with 2 people on a shit map than have a full server)

There's a difference between aggressiveRP and agressive bullshittery, the one you're refering to sounds alot like aggressive bullshittery cause there is no RP behind that, only shooting on top of shooting.

What the actual fuck are you even talking about? Did you mean to reply to someone else?

Adding V2D back will repopulate the server. Shithead Passive RPer's opinions should be completely ignored like they have been ignoring Aggressive RPers opinions for years now. Just build your shit casino in Cub foods like the unless Admin RPers before you.

(Forgee + every other sub-human passive RPer who would rather RP with 2 people on a shit map than have a full server)

Basewars should be a bit further up in the gamemode list, as it seems like that's what you're looking for.

EDIT: I also kinda want to mention, a lot of you are going "omg we need stuff to happen apart from the map change" without actually saying WHAT stuff you want to happen. Like what do you expect, staff to wave a magic wand around and fix the server?

Telling aggressive RPers to leave definitely worked the last 20 times FL has done it right? Wait the server is dead because no Aggressive RPers are active anymore. Man, who would have thought pushing away the largest supporters of a community would be bad :/

EDIT: you are a dumbass

I'm not saying all AggRPers should leave, just the ones who are stubborn and unable to compromise on things are likely better off just leaving instead of contributing nothing at all to a big issue. I think a lot of people here have to realise that a map change to V2D is extremely unlikely. V4B1 won a vote by quite a big majority and constant map switches has proven it's not the solution to low population but rather is just being used as an excuse to bigger issues.

What else apart from the map do you think FL needs to change/do? I'm also curious on why you think AggRPers have been "pushed away"? Like if anything, you guys have received a lot more major update wise than PassiveRP last year.

Ngl you changed the weapon stats because you didn’t win all the time and ruined aggressiveRP it’s only just gone back to being fair with rickets and wolven changing it no one has even complained about it. So don’t blame it on AgressiveRP’ers there should be balance between aggressive and passive.

I took a super unbiased way of doing weapon balance (by using automated spreadsheets) and only made minor adjustments to the stats it gave in order to factor in some weapons special attributes (such as TMP not showing on your back). I also really don't get where the "you" bit came from, as I did get approval to do the changes and had feedback along the way. I also played both criminals and government, so if anything I could accurately speak for both sides. After the update both criminals and government complained about being a bit underpowered, which kinda proves it was perfectly fine as both sides complained (compared to just the government before). If any single gun can be used in almost any situation, then it's unbalanced. I tried to solve this the best I could with my rework without drastically affecting the feel of weapons. I kinda hate how a lot of people just saw the fact I played gov sometimes and assumed I intentionally balanced it towards them, even though after I got dev I spent most of my time on the server involved in being a criminal (especially after the update to test how balanced it feels, and honestly if anything it still felt like criminals were better as we won almost every time. I didn't change anything though as that was just for my personal group, the spreadsheet was still the far superior way of balancing it). I get the change from being super OP to just having a bit of an advantage did make many AggRPers feel a lot less powerful, but all of my stats showed that in no way was it unbalanced compared to the gov. 

As i've said many times before, the issue isn't gun stats. Recent updates have put more and more strain onto the server, resulting in issues such as extremely poor hit registration which make the weapons feel a lot worse than they are.

Adding V2D back will repopulate the server. Shithead Passive RPer's opinions should be completely ignored like they have been ignoring Aggressive RPers opinions for years now. Just build your shit casino in Cub foods like the unless Admin RPers before you.

(Forgee + every other sub-human passive RPer who would rather RP with 2 people on a shit map than have a full server)

Basewars should be a bit further up in the gamemode list, as it seems like that's what you're looking for.

EDIT: I also kinda want to mention, a lot of you are going "omg we need stuff to happen apart from the map change" without actually saying WHAT stuff you want to happen. Like what do you expect, staff to wave a magic wand around and fix the server?

Telling aggressive RPers to leave definitely worked the last 20 times FL has done it right? Wait the server is dead because no Aggressive RPers are active anymore. Man, who would have thought pushing away the largest supporters of a community would be bad :/

EDIT: you are a dumbass

I'm not saying all AggRPers should leave, just the ones who are stubborn and unable to compromise on things are likely better off just leaving instead of contributing nothing at all to a big issue. I think a lot of people here have to realise that a map change to V2D is extremely unlikely. V4B1 won a vote by quite a big majority and constant map switches has proven it's not the solution to low population but rather is just being used as an excuse to bigger issues.

What else apart from the map do you think FL needs to change/do? I'm also curious on why you think AggRPers have been "pushed away"? Like if anything, you guys have received a lot more major update wise than PassiveRP last year.

1. Why can Passive Rpers be stubborn? They don't give up their map? Why is that different?
2. v4b1 had 15 votes on the original thread lol (pines won) (they split v2d votes between classic and sexy so it wouldn't win)
3. FL only has changed maps like 4 times wtf are you talking about? And the only player-base dropped happened when they took it off of v2d after pines
4. I commented my opinion and got told change servers? What do you mean you are pushing away aggressive RPers?
5. The fact there is nowhere to aggressive RP on the map is a big deal, no small gun updates is going to help that. 

I don't know if you think you are talking to someone who joined in 2015, but you don't know anything you are talking about so just stfu and don't reply to me again if you are going to be worthless.

1) I never said they can't be, however it does generally feel like you guys are much more aggressive in these threads. Insulting others doesn't get you anywhere, it certainly won't make the server magically be better at least. 
2) V2D votes were counted together so that argument doesn't work. In the second vote which included V2D, V4B1 won by a ton and as such we did a final switch to that.
3) It's still way too much considering it only should've been one and wasn't ever intended to be more.
4) Maybe it also had to do with the fact you're being really hostile? I have nothing against AggRP as I did it myself, it's just the attitude of some people which really gives anyone involved in AggRP a bad name. Just by your posts, you seem like one of those people.
5) Just because the entire map isn't a natural doomfort doesn't mean there's nowhere to AggRP, like come on.

I don't get what the 2015 bit is meant to be at all, so i'm going to assume you're trying to say you know more just because you've been around since then? I mean then again that doesn't make sense, as i've been around since 2012 and I was also an active member of the development team. I've seen the community in both its prime and was even on the team during one of its lowest points. Just because my opinion conflicts with yours doesn't make it pointless, nor does it mean I don't know what i'm talking about.

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I'm not saying all AggRPers should leave, just the ones who are stubborn and unable to compromise on things are likely better off just leaving instead of contributing nothing at all to a big issue. I think a lot of people here have to realise that a map change to V2D is extremely unlikely. V4B1 won a vote by quite a big majority and constant map switches has proven it's not the solution to low population but rather is just being used as an excuse to bigger issues.

What else apart from the map do you think FL needs to change/do? I'm also curious on why you think AggRPers have been "pushed away"? Like if anything, you guys have received a lot more major update wise than PassiveRP last year.

By changing the government to have free weapons, without even a chance of them dropping. Buffing the M4 to beyond belief, nerfing the galil, and most criminal weapons. This completely lowered the skill gap between and aggressive RPer with 1k hours and a 10 hour cop or sru; therefore pushing aggressive RPers away.

FL needs to begin to promote passive RP, through appointing an event manager, having staff that are willing to create mini events on the main server that are inclusive to all players.

The reason we didn't have gov weapons drop is because we simply can't if they're getting it for free. I get the "economy" doesn't really exist due to moneypacks, but there's no reason for us to make it worse by giving out free weapons. It also means that people are more likely to just shoot police, as well who doesn't want a free gun? It's fair as it is as criminal weapons don't drop either, any gun a cop equips from their own inventory does also drop too. The weapon locker update was a while back, but i'm sure more people will agree it generally made everything a lot more balanced. It also didn't affect any sort of "skill gap" at all, it just made it so criminals weren't insanely OP due to them having galils and cops only getting pistols. It was only fun for the criminal side before, as well they were the super OP ones.

I do agree with your last point, it's been pretty bad since teachers were removed (which used to help me host various mini-events, especially towards the end). Nothing has really replaced that, so there's a bit of a void left.

[Lewwings]

It is clear to see Lewwings you’ve nothing constructive to say and just attempt to annoy people. You talk about ways of re populating the server so fucking tell us these genius plans you behold. You clearly have nothing to say apart from the staff being a disgrace, which I completely agree with however that isn’t going to raise the playerbase. FL needs something new and fresh, whether V2D is that we will hopefully have to wait and see.

Alright, time to spill the beans of how to re-populate FL, and prove I'm not here to be annoying or sarcastic (according to MJ) or yourself.

Here is how you fucking do it:

  - Start implementing some gamemode-changing updates in order to sustain the playerbase and player interests (https://fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=91268, https://fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=91416, https://fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=91158, https://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=91779, https://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=91886, https://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=91906, https://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=91975, https://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=91802, etc)
  - Promote those that promote FL. Do this by having some sort of link (maybe at the bottom of the forums where events links usually can be found) and in general support and advertise those who may be bringing an audience to FL. (https://fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=88012)
  - Clan models (https://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=91170)
  - Clan overhaul similar to what Nevy said - "create actual businesses" (https://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.ph...#pid807519)
  - Promotional videos and advertisements for FL, maybe another trailer competition? (proposed by Awestruck)
  - Two clan officers that ACTIVELY engage with the clan world AND the community
  - Two event managers that can ACTIVELY set up and host weekly events/mini-events ON THE MAIN SERVER (event is useless for the most part)
  - General development that is focused towards pleasing a large group of players, rather than focusing on the single-player
  - Surveys, like shit-tons
  - Actually enforce the rules
  - Active administration and moderation
  - Active SA team that can deal with situations effectively and appropriately 
  - Monthly event night of the event managers choosing/staff's/community vote's


That should do it.