Unban: DonaldMcRonald
#1
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~ Posting on behalf of DonaldMcRonald ~

Your name:DonaldMcRonald

Your SteamID:STEAM_0:1:57011185

Your ban ID: 79991

Banned by:Janzo

Reason: Selfsupply medkits, Using weapons as citizen. Should know better w/hours.

Involved: Ethan Bradberry, Moxew


DonaldMcRonald was accused by Janzo of self supplying, this is a false accusation and is not true. DonaldMcRonald was supplying medkits to me and other people.
He actually sold about 150 medkits to my teammates. DonaldMcRonald was banned without any communication or confrontation. This is extremely unfair as DonaldMcRonald did not have any chance to defend himself agaist your suspiscion of him self-supplying.


For the second part of the ban "Using weapons as citizen" was a simple mistake. DonaldMcRonald killed a player with sufficent reason and had RP reason t use his
weapons, but forgot to change his job name. This is a extremely common mistake which a ban, is not needed for. Hours do not matter in relation to accidently not changing your job name. It can happen to anybody at any amount of hours - it's happened to players well over 1000 hours. 5 days for this simple mistake, and nowadays, I see players being warned or recieving small punishments for major rule breakages such as ToS.


Last point in this UBR, I feel like Janzo failed to preform basic admin duties by failing to bring the accused player in an admin sit to get their side.

Thank you for reading this UBR
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#2
I will add to this as I feel it is necessary to this UBR. I bought 50 medkits from DonaldMcRonald and he did not self supply.
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#3
Hello Donald,

The reason a sit did not take place is because I was not ingame and
I was asked to check the logs for your rule breakage from a
player ingame.

Indeed you did sell medkits to some others.
However the logs do show that you did Self-supply yourself
several shipments of medkits.

The ban was more about the self-supply than
the job name however I do understand
that it can be an easy mistake to make.

So I am to blame for your rule breakage? That I do
not perform basic duties by punishing a rule breakage?
I don't think I am in the wrong.

I'm willing to give you a chance but currently
you seem quite aggressive for something that had
not need be aggressive.

If you have any evidence to defend your case
than I'd be happy to look at it.
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#4
~ Posting for DonaldMcRonald ~

"The reason a sit did not take place is because I was not ingame and
I was asked to check the logs for your rule breakage from a
player ingame."


That is no excuse to ban a player without interaction, you didn't even have to go ingame you could have
send him a message in discord.


"However the logs do show that you did Self-supply yourself
several shipments of medkits."



Donald never made medkits for him self, he picked up medkits to give to me later as I was busy in a raid.

If you are going to dish out a 5 day ban you would at least make sure you are correct by investigating it futher by questionning the player, this is really poor administartion.


There was no rulebreakage, and I have not blamed you for any. Stop playing victim in this, you've banned a player for something he has not done and
ruined our fun. We are not going to be all lovely and happy about it, expect some aggresion.


"If you have any evidence to defend your case
than I'd be happy to look at it."


Mate, you don't even have enough evidence to suggest he powergamed. He was selling medkits to other players. There is nothing
to suggest he switched soley to manufacture health kits for him self.
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#5
Thank you for your response,

"Donald never made medkits for him self, he picked up medkits to give to me later as I was busy in a raid."
I could never tell this is true since no PM's were sent IG.
The only way you could have communicated is through a third party
or by microphone which is impossible to prove unless you
have evidence.

Indeed though it was not "soley" for
their own gain and so the ban will be
removed.

The blacklist will stay considering
the other rule breakage.

If you would like to defend the blacklist you may create a UBR.

Thank you and I appologise for any inconvenience.


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