Discussion on Antifa
#21
(05-20-2017, 06:26 PM)ELAD Wrote: The only way to counter terrorist parties is by having a police state with martial law declared.

Let the hate roll in

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#22
Oh here we go.

Political violence isn't justified, I disagree. It isn't necessarily "political violence" I'm not opposing my views on other people by means of violence. Using violence against already known and violent neo Nazis, racists and fascist groups like the SDL, EDL, Nation Front, Combat18, Casuals United England etc they are all well known violent organisations so yes, combat violence with violence it worked for the cops for years during the union, miner and rent strikes etc

That being said not all Antifa are violent sure are many alliances throughout the UK Antifa England Netowrk, Scotland, Wales and Ireland have similar branches.

Tends to be Antifa Hooligans, Anarchists or a new craze "Militant Antifa"

There's also groups such as Unite Against Fascism that is ran by the Unite & Unison Unions and various others.

I honestly don't see how people can link Antifa with terrorism or terrorist organisations, it's the exact opposite of what it stands for.
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#23
Honestly there's much more to it than walking through a City Centre with a flare. I'm personally not into all that shit I think it's a load of shambles that attracts unnecessary attention. A lot of people that go about like that are normally ones that are in the Football Ultras scene in Europe, they all love that shit.
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#24
Again, everyone is entitled to their own political opinion and I'm not gonna force mine upon you. However should your political opinion be racist, fascist or discriminatory in any way you know that Antifascists will have something to say about it.

If diplomacy doesn't work, you can be sure other methods will.

People say it doesn't work but I can assure you it does, the SDL in a scotland had a massive following had regular demos in Glasgow etc look at some of their videos. We set about them a few times, their following declined, they came to Pollokshields (the most multicultural area in Scotland) they got done again never been back, hardly have ever had a demo in Glasgow lucky if they can now pull numbers of more than 20.
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#25
Anyway, this threads only purpose is to troll, political discussions like this don't really belong on a community like FL. unless your in my face I'm not gonna bother you about it, I come on here to play not for my political position or beliefs or actions to be called into disrepute because some 15 year old googled a video and suddenly knows everything.

I'm no Staff Member but it's probably a better idea this thread is closed before shit hits the fan. A few that have commented on this thread are just trolls, especially the thread creator.
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(05-20-2017, 05:33 AM)TheSiphon Wrote: Smashing windows, breaking public and private property, attacking innocent and unarmed people, the list goes on...

There is no reason why anyone would like antifa. They support the believe that only white people can be racists and that they are the scum of the earth, so they don't even believe in equal rights.

They want to start a communist anarchist government, but there is no way they can overthrow any current governments. Besides, we have seen how well communist countries went.

Why do people always assume Communism. *Sigh*

Yes, there are communists within Antifascist communities, tbh Antifa, in Scotland anyway takes absolutely nothing to do with the Communist Party. The majority of us are socialists and strongly believe in socialism, I'm sure your not an imbecile and can tell the difference between the two.

Also, where do you get this shit from, only white people can be fascist....what a load of horse shit.

Again there are people within the Socialist Workers Party that are of this belief "the oppressed cannot be the oppressors" saying that effectively only white people are racist but that's a very very minuscule minority.
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(05-20-2017, 07:41 AM)Old Man Jokhah Wrote: Indoctrination is a major thing in the USA.  Everyone is subjected to it, from the time they enter into school, till the day they die or leave the country.  Being that I was born in the 80's and grew up in the 90's, I can tell you times have changed twice since my birth.  I'm still discovering how much indoctrination I was subjected to.  Things like the pledge of allegiance, as well as how it was altered.  How history books are edited more and more.  Classes that have vanished because they promoted too much free thought.

Now I dunno who these people are exactly, but I've seen videos of them.  In one case, a woman was throwing glass bottles with M80's in them.  Now since it explodes, sending out shards of glass, that classifies as an IED by textbook definition.  Therefore, since they have at one point, used IEDs against US citizens, they are domestic terrorists, and I hope I never discover any of them.  I swore an oath, but I'm also old and slowly crippling, with things I care about now, so I'd rather not have to be involved.

That all said, if they show up around my parts, I'll grab my rifle and wait.  They start chuckin bombs and I'll start pickin them off.  I've never been one to leave my life nor the lives of others at risk without acting.

P.S. No, I'm not packing an M4 or any of that other "call of duty" turd shit.  Got me a real rifle.

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I personally never heard of this incident, but I had a quick look...maybe good ol' google could have saved you some embarrassment.

http://www.snopes.com/antifa-protestor-punch-m80/

I'd actually love to see the video where she throws multiple exploding glass bottles.

Can't find it on my end.
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#28
(05-20-2017, 10:42 PM)Marty Wrote: I come on here to play not for my political position or beliefs or actions to be called into disrepute because some 15 year old googled a video and suddenly knows everything.

Tbh, if your profile pic, group and signature is that of a controversial organisation like Antifa, someone is gonna call you out on it eventually so you cant really complain when someone does.

Also,

y u not put all of your wording into one post instead of more than one lmao
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#29
(05-20-2017, 05:21 PM)Eclipze Wrote: If you say Antifa is a terrorist organisation then any political organisation should be counted as a terrorist one.

What a stupid comment. I don't see any other party (or in this case it's actually a terrorist organisation.) suddenly destroying shops and running about like chavs.
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#30
(05-20-2017, 10:20 PM)Eclipze Wrote:
(05-20-2017, 05:29 PM)MOWAH Wrote:
(05-20-2017, 05:21 PM)Eclipze Wrote: If you say Antifa is a terrorist organisation then any political organisation should be counted as a terrorist one.

Funny thing is, you don't see the green party lighting flares in city centres and bricking windows though do you

Ever heard of something called a "revolution"? Some of the biggest revolutions in time included fire and violence.

A revolution won't be happening. You're being delusional. In addition are you implying that you support the overthrow of the governments of Europe where the terrorist organistaion "antifa" is present?
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