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02-16-2017, 10:13 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:05 AM by Fearless Community.
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Sanctions are to ensure minges stop being minges. Think of a school. If I do my homework incorrectly, I get no punishment as it is a mistake. If I intentionally don't do it, I get punished as it is different. That should be obvious now.
Your second point; You did not show us what had happened. What you did was cover up what you got wrong and show us a completely different situation. You were too high on the fence. You were near the tree. These are big factors. Also, you can see the difference when you constantly swap from shotgun to arms. When you only see an SRU in your garden you do not have time to think 'What does an unarmed SRU man look like glitched in a fence?'. That because it mostly goes like 'What does an unarmed SRU *BANG, DEAD*'. So, lets not pretend you showed us the actual situation. You can't deny the hard evidence in the video.
You say he could have 'stopped firing' but in the video its clear the 1 second spray was too short to be stopped half way. The video shows clearly that within 2 seconds he was seen and shot. So, please do not try and act like this was a drawn out, planned attempt to ruin Finn's day.
Now, how could it be seen as a breach? Im no genius, but as the SRU van(s) were driving around and propping up against walls with weapons, and the police were attempting to distract us at the front, we both know you were trying to breach. It was very clear it can be a breach. We saw you all crowded around about to raid and we saw an SRU in the garden. It's simple.
The biggest problem here is if we could identify whether or not he was armed. Now, we know it was dark by the video. We know it was near the tree and so from most angles it was half covering him (despite what you say). We know that he was wearing black and so his limbs were not as clear. We know that we were rushing due to your extensive force outside our base. Finally, we know that he was only just inline with the fence separation.
Posture:
His posture, as seen in the video, is slouched and bent due to him being stuck. In addition, he is facing us which makes it much harder to tell his positioning of his arms and hands.As you can see from the video it is hard to tell despite what the you say the 'demonstrations' show. They gave a very biased result and you know that.
Location:
We see the tree in the way, the darkness of the uniform and fence and we know the swat van is outside. You can see by our angle in the video we cant see the fence above him because we are parallel with it. So, we assumed (with all the tension and police force surrounding us) that it was the start of a raid. Do not try and pretend it was random when you have so many police around us and were in position to breach. We are not dumb and neither are so.
Timing:
This was of course in the situation of you preparing for a raid. I count 6 seconds that Finn was alive in our base. 2 of which he was spotted. 1 in which he was shot. Clearly, it was a quick reaction. In any kind of raid you have no time to piss about, its straight up do or die. What you are suggesting is that we should cross reference their past, inspect every inch of their body, interview them, experiment with them and then decide whether or not to kill them. Obviously stupid.
Finally, Range:
As we can tell, we are all some distance away from Finn. In fact, we were so far away we could not even hear him! This means we cannot educe FearRP on him and so killing was the only solution in the circumstances. The long distance makes it harder to see, of course which adds to the reason why it was so hard to identify. Its simple, the range is a large factor in such a complex situation. This is proven in the video.
I hope this helps.
Your second point; You did not show us what had happened. What you did was cover up what you got wrong and show us a completely different situation. You were too high on the fence. You were near the tree. These are big factors. Also, you can see the difference when you constantly swap from shotgun to arms. When you only see an SRU in your garden you do not have time to think 'What does an unarmed SRU man look like glitched in a fence?'. That because it mostly goes like 'What does an unarmed SRU *BANG, DEAD*'. So, lets not pretend you showed us the actual situation. You can't deny the hard evidence in the video.
You say he could have 'stopped firing' but in the video its clear the 1 second spray was too short to be stopped half way. The video shows clearly that within 2 seconds he was seen and shot. So, please do not try and act like this was a drawn out, planned attempt to ruin Finn's day.
Now, how could it be seen as a breach? Im no genius, but as the SRU van(s) were driving around and propping up against walls with weapons, and the police were attempting to distract us at the front, we both know you were trying to breach. It was very clear it can be a breach. We saw you all crowded around about to raid and we saw an SRU in the garden. It's simple.
The biggest problem here is if we could identify whether or not he was armed. Now, we know it was dark by the video. We know it was near the tree and so from most angles it was half covering him (despite what you say). We know that he was wearing black and so his limbs were not as clear. We know that we were rushing due to your extensive force outside our base. Finally, we know that he was only just inline with the fence separation.
Posture:
His posture, as seen in the video, is slouched and bent due to him being stuck. In addition, he is facing us which makes it much harder to tell his positioning of his arms and hands.As you can see from the video it is hard to tell despite what the you say the 'demonstrations' show. They gave a very biased result and you know that.
Location:
We see the tree in the way, the darkness of the uniform and fence and we know the swat van is outside. You can see by our angle in the video we cant see the fence above him because we are parallel with it. So, we assumed (with all the tension and police force surrounding us) that it was the start of a raid. Do not try and pretend it was random when you have so many police around us and were in position to breach. We are not dumb and neither are so.
Timing:
This was of course in the situation of you preparing for a raid. I count 6 seconds that Finn was alive in our base. 2 of which he was spotted. 1 in which he was shot. Clearly, it was a quick reaction. In any kind of raid you have no time to piss about, its straight up do or die. What you are suggesting is that we should cross reference their past, inspect every inch of their body, interview them, experiment with them and then decide whether or not to kill them. Obviously stupid.
Finally, Range:
As we can tell, we are all some distance away from Finn. In fact, we were so far away we could not even hear him! This means we cannot educe FearRP on him and so killing was the only solution in the circumstances. The long distance makes it harder to see, of course which adds to the reason why it was so hard to identify. Its simple, the range is a large factor in such a complex situation. This is proven in the video.
I hope this helps.