Reason:'Breaking into jails to free random prisoners because they're ''criminals'''
Staff member who blacklisted you: [FL:M] Holdem
Reason why you should be unblacklisted: First of all, I would like to say that Holdem acted rather unprofessional whilst we were discussing our punishments, not listening to what we had/have to say, nor did he reply both in PM and in (Local) OOC.
OT; We got black listed for 'Breaking into jails to free random prisoners' this is only PARTLY true. We would help prisoners escape for money, so it was not just randomly un-arresting/breaking them out. Like I said earlier, Holdem would have known this information if he listened to us to begin with. In short, we did it for profit, not to blatantly have a 'reason' to raid. If you want any further information, please feel free to post them, either me or TheGamerGuyGBR will respond to them as soon as possible.
05-19-2016, 02:05 AM (This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:05 AM by Fearless Community.
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The main reason I intervened was because the server had not long been up before I talked with you guys. Within a few minutes, the vice president got killed by you guys. You not once told me that you were breaking prisoners for money and your answers were vague. How am I supposed to know if you're telling the truth or you've been adding things along the way?
I don't know why you're saying that I never "listened" to you. I spent nearly 10 minutes on the roof between you and your friend. I've taken the liberty of checking the logs to make sure I didn't miss anything, I'll post them here so you may point me out where you guys told me that you were doing it for money. Here is everything that you and your friend said while we were on the roof.
Spoiler :
V33x [22:48:32] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Why did you kill Jamie?
v33x [22:48:39] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Did I kill him?
v33x [22:48:42] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//In jail?
v33x [22:48:46] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Was he the VP?
v33x [22:49:00] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Was he the VP, I honestly dont know
v33x [22:49:14] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Right
v33x [22:49:19] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//So, we did a jail break
v33x [22:49:25] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Yes, you did
v33x [22:49:29] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Whilest we had guns at u
v33x [22:49:35] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Which is fearrp to begin with
v33x [22:49:43] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Then, sru came down
v33x [22:49:47] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Sru shot after us
v33x [22:49:52] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//i shot vp, as he was hostage
v33x [22:50:02] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: /me puts on a glorious suit.
[22:49:53] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Who were you breaking out?
v33x [22:50:07] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//General prisoners
[22:50:15] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// So no one in particular?
v33x [22:50:22] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Not really ,no
[22:50:31] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Right...
v33x [22:50:33] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Which isnt against the rules, nothing against it.
[22:51:11] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// You need a valid reason to do things. Breaking into the nexus to free prisoners you don't even know does not make sense
v33x [22:51:30] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Never has anyone broken into a JAIL just to break out who ever is in there
v33x [22:51:49] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Actually, it has happened on multiple accations
v33x [22:52:05] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Where I have been a prisoner, that is
v33x [22:52:32] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Could you bring my mate up here
v33x [22:52:36] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Who was involved
v33x [22:52:40] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//GamerGuyGBR
v33x [22:52:53] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Why not? He is relevant to the case
v33x [22:53:24] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//He asked to come up here
v33x [22:53:33] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//what are we being accused of this time?
v33x [22:53:46] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//SO Holdem
[22:53:56] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Why did you break into the jails?
v33x [22:54:01] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Are you not gonna deal with the fact that he called sru, whilest under gun point v33x [22:54:12] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//we wanted to free prisoners
v33x [22:54:13] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: /laws [22:54:18] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// What prisoners. v33x [22:54:24] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//prisoners [22:54:28] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Why? v33x [22:54:42] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//because we are criminals, we want as much chaos as possible for the government [22:55:02] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Right, I'm going to take weapons access from you guys for a while as a punishment. v33x [22:55:07] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Do you have a rule on the server, that is against that?
v33x [22:55:12] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//No hold up
v33x [22:55:13] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Next time you're breaking people out, make sure it's people you know and with good reason
v33x [22:55:13] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//so you arent going to deal with the fearrp breakage at all
v33x [22:55:18] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//once one side is punished thats all done with
v33x [22:55:20] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//I want anothers admin say in this
v33x [22:55:25] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//A higher ranked one
v33x [22:55:34] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//not the face that SRU burst in shooting when we had a hostage or that he called sru under gunpoint
v33x [22:55:53] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Holdem
v33x [22:55:58] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Do you have a rule on the server, that is against that?
v33x [22:56:00] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//yea, we are criminals
v33x [22:56:04] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//read the rule
v33x [22:56:12] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//I sure cant find one
v33x [22:56:22] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//isnt technically raiding, we didnt attack the jails
Live a good life. If there's a god and he's just, he will not care of how devout you are, he will accept you for the virtues you have based your life upon. If there's no god, then you will have gone, but you will have lived a noble life which will stay in the memories of those that you love.
05-19-2016, 05:53 AM (This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:05 AM by Fearless Community.
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(05-19-2016, 02:05 AM)Holdem Wrote: The main reason I intervened was because the server had not long been up before I talked with you guys. Within a few minutes, the vice president got killed by you guys. You not once told me that you were breaking prisoners for money and your answers were vague. How am I supposed to know if you're telling the truth or you've been adding things along the way?
I don't know why you're saying that I never "listened" to you. I spent nearly 10 minutes on the roof between you and your friend. I've taken the liberty of checking the logs to make sure I didn't miss anything, I'll post them here so you may point me out where you guys told me that you were doing it for money. Here is everything that you and your friend said while we were on the roof.
Spoiler :
V33x [22:48:32] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Why did you kill Jamie?
v33x [22:48:39] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Did I kill him?
v33x [22:48:42] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//In jail?
v33x [22:48:46] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Was he the VP?
v33x [22:49:00] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Was he the VP, I honestly dont know
v33x [22:49:14] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Right
v33x [22:49:19] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//So, we did a jail break
v33x [22:49:25] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Yes, you did
v33x [22:49:29] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Whilest we had guns at u
v33x [22:49:35] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Which is fearrp to begin with
v33x [22:49:43] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Then, sru came down
v33x [22:49:47] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Sru shot after us
v33x [22:49:52] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//i shot vp, as he was hostage
v33x [22:50:02] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: /me puts on a glorious suit.
[22:49:53] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Who were you breaking out?
v33x [22:50:07] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//General prisoners
[22:50:15] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// So no one in particular?
v33x [22:50:22] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Not really ,no
[22:50:31] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Right...
v33x [22:50:33] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Which isnt against the rules, nothing against it.
[22:51:11] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// You need a valid reason to do things. Breaking into the nexus to free prisoners you don't even know does not make sense
v33x [22:51:30] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Never has anyone broken into a JAIL just to break out who ever is in there
v33x [22:51:49] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Actually, it has happened on multiple accations
v33x [22:52:05] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Where I have been a prisoner, that is
v33x [22:52:32] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Could you bring my mate up here
v33x [22:52:36] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Who was involved
v33x [22:52:40] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//GamerGuyGBR
v33x [22:52:53] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Why not? He is relevant to the case
v33x [22:53:24] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//He asked to come up here
v33x [22:53:33] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//what are we being accused of this time?
v33x [22:53:46] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//SO Holdem
[22:53:56] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Why did you break into the jails?
v33x [22:54:01] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Are you not gonna deal with the fact that he called sru, whilest under gun point v33x [22:54:12] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//we wanted to free prisoners
v33x [22:54:13] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: /laws [22:54:18] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// What prisoners. v33x [22:54:24] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//prisoners [22:54:28] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Why? v33x [22:54:42] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//because we are criminals, we want as much chaos as possible for the government [22:55:02] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Right, I'm going to take weapons access from you guys for a while as a punishment. v33x [22:55:07] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Do you have a rule on the server, that is against that?
v33x [22:55:12] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//No hold up
v33x [22:55:13] [FL:M] Holdem (STEAM_0:0:20116682) said: .// Next time you're breaking people out, make sure it's people you know and with good reason
v33x [22:55:13] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//so you arent going to deal with the fearrp breakage at all
v33x [22:55:18] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//once one side is punished thats all done with
v33x [22:55:20] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//I want anothers admin say in this
v33x [22:55:25] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//A higher ranked one
v33x [22:55:34] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//not the face that SRU burst in shooting when we had a hostage or that he called sru under gunpoint
v33x [22:55:53] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Holdem
v33x [22:55:58] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//Do you have a rule on the server, that is against that?
v33x [22:56:00] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//yea, we are criminals
v33x [22:56:04] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//read the rule
v33x [22:56:12] [Mx] Random Gamer (STEAM_0:1:57769738) said: .//I sure cant find one
v33x [22:56:22] TheGamerGuyGBR (STEAM_0:1:72475001) said: .//isnt technically raiding, we didnt attack the jails
05-19-2016, 02:34 PM (This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:05 AM by Fearless Community.
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I now know you did it for money since when checking logs I checked your story too. However, I'll go back to what I said, you should have told me this. I asked both of you for reasons, I got a completely different reason to the "real one"
You should have told me this from the start instead of trying to defend your point of "It's okay to free random prisoners because we're criminals", it just makes it sound like you had no good reason.
Please note this for future reference.
Live a good life. If there's a god and he's just, he will not care of how devout you are, he will accept you for the virtues you have based your life upon. If there's no god, then you will have gone, but you will have lived a noble life which will stay in the memories of those that you love.
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