Unban Req Spyderr

[cnr]

Your name: Spyderr


Your ban ID: 57047

Banned by: [FL:M] Raptor

Reason: FearRP. General Rule 13. LAST CHANCE

Involved: Don't even know I was banned on the spot without warning or being talked to.

Why we should unban you: Don't know when I broke FearRP, was knocking on a meat shop door to buy meat. They told me they had no meat, told me to fuck off then chased after me then pulling a gun out. They then proceeded to hostage me, me, following their commands went into their "meat shop" and was sitting in one of those public shitty hostage chair dupes. Made about 10-14 admin requests in the space of 30 minutes with no response due to me being randomly hostaged then I was just banned.

also; he would not add me on steam to discuss my reasoning for my ban and prior to the ban we never talked about any kind of fearrp breakage. the reason I had added him on steam was because I was perm banned from the forums.

[Nyander]

They told you enough time to leave the place and stop harrasing them, you refused to leave.

v33x [03:40:19] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: hello
v33x [03:40:21] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: i need meat again
v33x [03:40:35] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: i need meat
v33x [03:40:39] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//GO AWAY!
v33x [03:40:46] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: I can't buy meat?
v33x [03:40:49] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//what chinese said
v33x [03:40:53] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: .//IM LOOKING FOR MEAT
v33x [03:40:55] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: .//SAY YES OR NO
v33x [03:41:00] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: meat or no meat
v33x [03:41:01] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//Omg..
v33x [03:41:04] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//NO
v33x [03:41:07] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//the door was closed
v33x [03:41:08] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: where dat meat at
v33x [03:41:11] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: I just got here
v33x [03:41:13] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//He was spamming the door
v33x [03:41:14] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: I knocked 5 times
v33x [03:41:18] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//5000.
v33x [03:41:21] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: .//312942389523985
v33x [03:41:23] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//I opened to tell him stop
v33x [03:41:29] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: I WANT MEAT
v33x [03:41:30] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: DO YOU HAVE MEAT
v33x [03:41:32] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: YES OR NO
v33x [03:41:32] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//Put a restraining ordeer
v33x [03:41:36] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: move back
v33x [03:41:42] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: MEAT?
v33x [03:41:44] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: MEAT
v33x [03:41:47] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: /Y I NEED MEAT
v33x [03:41:51] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: go away
v33x [03:41:52] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: /Y WHERES THE FUCKIN MEAT AT
v33x [03:41:55] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) has used 1 Fish
v33x [03:41:59] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: I need meat dawg
v33x [03:42:13] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: I'm gonna stay here till you get me my damn meat
v33x [03:42:17] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: I need a fillet of steak

v33x [03:43:17] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: /me takes out a Hostage Rope from their backup.
v33x [03:43:24] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) has spawned models/props_junk/flare.mdl
v33x [03:43:33] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: Hi
v33x [03:43:35] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) has spawned models/props_junk/flare.mdl
v33x [03:43:37] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: /me starts to tie up Jacob Clarke.
v33x [03:43:50] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: @fearRP
v33x [03:44:07] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: wtf

Notice it didn't say "/me finished the rope with a strong knot."
This is the part where you broke FearRP they tired hostaging you and you moved away from them.
Hostage Rule 2. Do not run away from gunpoint or while being tied: this is breaking FearRP.

[cnr]

They told you enough time to leave the place and stop harrasing them, you refused to leave.
v33x [03:40:19] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: hello
v33x [03:40:21] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: i need meat again
v33x [03:40:35] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: i need meat
v33x [03:40:39] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//GO AWAY!
v33x [03:40:46] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: I can't buy meat?
v33x [03:40:49] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//what chinese said
v33x [03:40:53] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: .//IM LOOKING FOR MEAT
v33x [03:40:55] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: .//SAY YES OR NO
v33x [03:41:00] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: meat or no meat
v33x [03:41:01] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//Omg..
v33x [03:41:04] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//NO
v33x [03:41:07] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//the door was closed
v33x [03:41:08] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: where dat meat at
v33x [03:41:11] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: I just got here
v33x [03:41:13] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//He was spamming the door
v33x [03:41:14] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: I knocked 5 times
v33x [03:41:18] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//5000.
v33x [03:41:21] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: .//312942389523985
v33x [03:41:23] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//I opened to tell him stop
v33x [03:41:29] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: I WANT MEAT
v33x [03:41:30] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: DO YOU HAVE MEAT
v33x [03:41:32] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: YES OR NO
v33x [03:41:32] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//Put a restraining ordeer
v33x [03:41:36] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: move back
v33x [03:41:42] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: MEAT?
v33x [03:41:44] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: MEAT
v33x [03:41:47] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: /Y I NEED MEAT
v33x [03:41:51] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: go away
v33x [03:41:52] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: /Y WHERES THE FUCKIN MEAT AT
v33x [03:41:55] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) has used 1 Fish
v33x [03:41:59] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: I need meat dawg
v33x [03:42:13] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: I'm gonna stay here till you get me my damn meat
v33x [03:42:17] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: I need a fillet of steak
v33x [03:43:17] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: /me takes out a Hostage Rope from their backup.
v33x [03:43:24] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) has spawned models/props_junk/flare.mdl
v33x [03:43:33] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: Hi
v33x [03:43:35] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) has spawned models/props_junk/flare.mdl
v33x [03:43:37] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: /me starts to tie up Jacob Clarke.
v33x [03:43:50] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: @fearRP
v33x [03:44:07] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: wtf
Notice it didn't say "/me finished the rope with a strong knot."
This is the part where you broke FearRP they tired hostaging you and you moved away from them.
Hostage Rule 2. Do not run away from gunpoint or while being tied: this is breaking FearRP.

lmao why do you think the knot wasn't tied? I was trying to get away to call an admin as they were randomly hostaging me as you'll see like 2 lines later in the logs. I then let him tie me up and I followed him commands and went to his meat store where I sat for 30 minutes with no response from any admins. They had NO reason to hostage me, if you think asking for meat from a meat shop is a reason to be hostaged you need your head checked.

I'd also like to know why you banned me without doing an admin sit or even speaking a word to me.

[Nyander]

If you think that they broke a rule by them 'randomly hostaging' you that doesn't give you any right to break a rule yourself. FearRP is FearRP.
They also had a valid reason to hostage you, considering that you were continuously annoying them around their base, they told you enough times to leave and you refused to do so,

Hostage rule 8 :You may not hostage people in the streets,you may hostage people close outside your base, but only if you have a decent reason for it.

[cnr]

If you think that they broke a rule by them 'randomly hostaging' you that doesn't give you any right to break a rule yourself. FearRP is FearRP.
They also had a valid reason to hostage you, considering that you were continuously annoying them around their base, they told you enough times to leave and you refused to do so,

Hostage rule 8 :You may not hostage people in the streets,you may hostage people close outside your base, but only if you have a decent reason for it.

"But only of you have a decent reason for it" Ahhhh so it's normal to hostage people standing OUTISDE your store, I see. I barely broke fearrp, I walked about 4 steps then let them tie me and proceeded with the hostage bullshit. I still want to know why you never discussed this prior to my ban and just banned me with no warning or dispute.

[Nyander]

The reason why I didn't discuss it with you is because you have enough experience on the server to know that it is fearRP, this is also your third time for the same ban reason.
I don't see why you should be unbanned.

[cnr]

The reason why I didn't discuss it with you is because you have enough experience on the server to know that it is fearRP, this is also your third time for the same ban reason.
I don't see why you should be unbanned.

Part of staffs job is to discuss the ban prior to actually doing it. This was a MINISCULE breakage of fearrp, as I've said before I took about 4 steps because I had to process in my mind that I was being randomly hostaged, and I still don't think I even broke fearrp. It's not like I ran half way around mtl screaming "fuck you!", I took a few steps and then let him continue tying me.

[Nyander]

That wasn't the only time you broke FearRP, you broke it many times during that time, when they told you to go to the meat shop you were acting like you do not know where it is.

v33x [03:45:30] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: get up
v33x [03:45:35] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: walk there
v33x [03:45:37] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: fast
v33x [03:45:40] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: where
v33x [03:45:43] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: to the shop
v33x [03:45:46] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: what shop?
v33x [03:45:48] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//Fhs
v33x [03:45:53] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//i told you before fail RP...
v33x [03:45:55] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: The meat shop
v33x [03:45:57] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: now move it

[cnr]

That wasn't the only time you broke FearRP, you broke it many times during that time, when they told you to go to the meat shop you were acting like you do not know where it is.

v33x [03:45:30] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: get up
v33x [03:45:35] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: walk there
v33x [03:45:37] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: fast
v33x [03:45:40] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: where
v33x [03:45:43] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: to the shop
v33x [03:45:46] Spyderr (STEAM_0:0:40778701) said: what shop?
v33x [03:45:48] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//Fhs
v33x [03:45:53] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: .//i told you before fail RP...
v33x [03:45:55] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: The meat shop
v33x [03:45:57] [FL:RP]TroubledTroll (STEAM_0:0:90789839) said: now move it

I was trying to delay the inevitable so I could get an admin ther, asking what shop isn't breaking fearrp. You still haven't produced an answer on why you just banned me on the spot without talking to me, after being banned I had no idea where I had broke fearrp which is seen in the OP. 

[cnr]

Also, I'd like to mention the fact that you never investigated the random hostage or even banned either for failrp (even though they were civilians they owned a meat shop which means they sell meat not have shotguns and hostage ropes to tie up customers)