Wave of the bans from the 1 Raid

[Laizel]

Name of player: Kenny, le pros ; [FL:RP]pasarus ; [FL:RP] Jacob1029 ; ROZKREV. ; Oh Mah God
SteamIDs: STEAM_0:0:13500073 ; STEAM_0:0:40710666 ; STEAM_0:0:25326672; STEAM_0:0:20021356(Names and steamids are in the same order)

Time in GMT: 30 mins after the posting

Server: V2D

Summary: All these persons have raided me to grab the presidents post.
(Shitty reason)
Kenny, le pros(a part of their raid-band) have became the president after the raid.
Oh Mah God worked with them as Scout.
Ive lost my job in the result of this chaos.
Evidence:
№1
Tablet.

[beflok]

This is something we need to go through the logs for since the video quality is so bad. Unless the original video quality is higher that is then please re upload it. You can barely even read the scoreboard.

[Laizel]

This is something we need to go through the logs for since the video quality is so bad. Unless the original video quality is higher that is then please re upload it. You can barely even read the scoreboard.

Sorry, but thats all that I got.
Nah, original video quality is the same, ive used usual garrysmod recorder(You can set it at the settings of the keyboard), cant do anything about that, sorry.
Anyway, at least 3 of them can be banned just because they spoken in mic(name of the mic speaking man is much bigger that the usual one), just.. try to do something about it.

[Jigsaw]

May I just ask, what were you recording with?

P.S. Good Evidence my Friend!


Iwan.

[Laizel]

May I just ask, what were you recording with?

P.S. Good Evidence my Friend!


Iwan.

Its an offtop, but who cares.
Read the previous message.

[Jacob1029]

I'm sorry that you are upset that you lost your job, your ban request is quite pathetic though.

We caused you no problems at all in your city.
We then had some unemployed try to kill us with his security guard, we killed the guard and tied the unemployed. We demanded 2k for his safe release.

The next thing, the SS show up at the apartments. I requested someone came, with the cash, so what do you do ? Bring the whole of the SS guns drawn with no consideration for ANYONES life including the hostage.

The SS start raiding 2 of our apartments going rambo just shooting everyone on site, even with no guns. This was clearly a METAGAME as one of them was on a completely different floor and no one had gone near it..

The SS came in, I had holstered my gun before I came in as I had no chance. I repositioned into the corner and they shot me whilst I was in the corner saying "don't shoot I'm the hostage" on the mic, but I didn't die, they even shot at the hostage who was just said in the corner!

You once again metagamed, saying "that's jacob get him" or something along those lines, even if you knew or had a hunch I was a villain you had no clue who I was without metagaming. You never spoke to me, you warranted and arrested.

This upset us greatly, you was even at the raid over-viewing it. So went and found you, saw a nice amount of cars outside the Garage, and then saw your ss.

So I went to your door, was there a couple of minutes shouting "President, we need to talk, now"
Did you come and talk? No. You can even hear "Pasarus" say to you "you should of done this peacefully Mr President." I don't see why talking to us was so hard?

So we went in, and as you can see from the video, didn't kill you on sight like most raiders would.

All you kept saying was "what's your reason to raid, last warning". As you can hear in your video, I'm sick of you saying that. We told you the reason, and all you kept saying was last warning, tell me, maybe to avoid the RP? Maybe you didn't read it? Either way, it really hacked me off.

As you can see, I list the reasons off:

For a start, as said above, you raided our family, via use of a metagame and bad tactics ie just go in their and shoot everyone with no attempts of any NEGOTIATION AT ALL.
Then, when 2 rebels were on a visit to a jail cell, a cop just came in and starting firing off his USP at them.
And then, you had some stupid frozen roadblock, which half the time was unmanned and so no one could get in or out of the city. Which was absolutely ridiculous.

And for the reference, no one did it for the president slot, kenny took it as a bonus, but it was no where near the goal of raiding you.

So yeah, I'm sorry. I could perfectly understand you making a ban request if we had raided you and said "we raid u cuz high taxes" but you brought it upon yourself with a stupid chain reaction of fail rp and on numerous occasions failing to even bother being diplomatic. I think you was under the impression that, I don't care about them because I am very safe behind my kevlar'D SS.

Oh, and I love how you even fail to mention any previous events, you just say it's a "random raid" and that's it. Perhaps you were hoping no one had a forum account to defend themselves or something, or perhaps you just missed those previous events out because they weren't in your favor. If you are going to do a ban request, at least post the full picture.

Sorry for the lengthy reply, but this request is outrageous. To be quite honest I think you are just very sore about losing your job but if you had done it properly or even bothered to talk to us, it wouldn't of happened.

[Laizel]

Now, by the points.
1) About my metagame. It wasnt a metagame though. Youve sent the request to the goverment that youre holding hostage inthere. > I know your name, put your warrant on it far ago. Ive sent the SS to make sure that hostage will get free, gave 2000 to the HSS and theyve left. Dont know what happened inthere.
2) I didnt give the warrant though, that means, there was no legal raid. Dont like something? Call an admin. Raiding a pres is not a solution, this way named "random raiding". Otherwords:your reason to raid is incorrect.
3) Did you requested someones demotion? Maybe.. told something me at OOC? /pm Laizel isnt working, is it?
No negotiations, no problems.
4)Ive warned you over9000 times, that I will post an BR, more than that, you will get banned for it.
Youve replied "IM TIRED OF YOUR WARNINGS. "Jacobs doing Pew-Pew. Dead pres.)
P.S: Raid of my Residence was totally minges style, killed me while I was a pres with no dictatorship with no demands, etc.
End.

[Jacob1029]

Now, by the points.
1) About my metagame. It wasnt a metagame though. Youve sent the request to the goverment that youre holding hostage inthere. > I know your name, put your warrant on it far ago. Ive sent the SS to make sure that hostage will get free, gave 2000 to the HSS and theyve left. Dont know what happened inthere.
2) I didnt give the warrant though, that means, there was no legal raid. Dont like something? Call an admin. Raiding a pres is not a solution, this way named "random raiding". Otherwords:your reason to raid is incorrect.
3) Did you requested someones demotion? Maybe.. told something me at OOC? /pm Laizel isnt working, is it?
No negotiations, no problems.
4)Ive warned you over9000 times, that I will post an BR, more than that, you will get banned for it.
Youve replied "IM TIRED OF YOUR WARNINGS. "Jacobs doing Pew-Pew. Dead pres.)
P.S: Raid of my Residence was totally minges style, killed me while I was a pres with no dictatorship with no demands, etc.
End.

1. So when someone sends you a text in real life, from a new number on your phone who you have contacted before, it automatically tells you there name and what they look like does it?
That's no even my point.
My point is, there was multiple people in that apartment, and the surrounding corridor, and you managed to pick ME out of everyone instantly with no communication at all. So you clearly metagamed.

2.I presume you mean you didn't give a search warrant for the apartment.
So what your saying is you sat and watch SS break rules and random raid instead of stopping them/demoting them?
Thanks for admitting that. You also gave a warrant to arrest me.
Your men, your responsibility especially when your sat watching.

3. Why would I request your demotion? Like I said above, we tried to negotiate and talk to you on many occasions, you failed to talk even ONCE. Your demotion was given to you.

4. Like I said, post what you want. It's clearly just a sore attempt of revenge because you lost your job. And I think you'll find, not one of my bullets ever touched you, I made sure of that.

At the end of the day. There is more than 1 reason, and they could all validate a raid. You completely ignore some of the points also.

Your frozen roadblock which we asked to remove or at least be manned was acceptable was it?
People being escorted by cops to cells for visit then being shot by the same cops?
Apartments being raided for no reason other than by metagaming association was acceptable?
As I said above:
Pasarus said "YOU COULD OF DONE THIS PEACEFULLY"

We gave you more than enough time just to talk to us, ONCE. On all of the occasions that we met you, did you? NO.

Your request is flawed.

[Laizel]

Now, by the points.
1) About my metagame. It wasnt a metagame though. Youve sent the request to the goverment that youre holding hostage inthere. > I know your name, put your warrant on it far ago. Ive sent the SS to make sure that hostage will get free, gave 2000 to the HSS and theyve left. Dont know what happened inthere.
2) I didnt give the warrant though, that means, there was no legal raid. Dont like something? Call an admin. Raiding a pres is not a solution, this way named "random raiding". Otherwords:your reason to raid is incorrect.
3) Did you requested someones demotion? Maybe.. told something me at OOC? /pm Laizel isnt working, is it?
No negotiations, no problems.
4)Ive warned you over9000 times, that I will post an BR, more than that, you will get banned for it.
Youve replied "IM TIRED OF YOUR WARNINGS. "Jacobs doing Pew-Pew. Dead pres.)
P.S: Raid of my Residence was totally minges style, killed me while I was a pres with no dictatorship with no demands, etc.
End.

1. So when someone sends you a text in real life, from a new number on your phone who you have contacted before, it automatically tells you there name and what they look like does it?
That's no even my point.
My point is, there was multiple people in that apartment, and the surrounding corridor, and you managed to pick ME out of everyone instantly with no communication at all. So you clearly metagamed.

2.I presume you mean you didn't give a search warrant for the apartment.
So what your saying is you sat and watch SS break rules and random raid instead of stopping them/demoting them?
Thanks for admitting that. You also gave a warrant to arrest me.
Your men, your responsibility especially when your sat watching.

3. Why would I request your demotion? Like I said above, we tried to negotiate and talk to you on many occasions, you failed to talk even ONCE. Your demotion was given to you.

4. Like I said, post what you want. It's clearly just a sore attempt of revenge because you lost your job. And I think you'll find, not one of my bullets ever touched you, I made sure of that.

At the end of the day. There is more than 1 reason, and they could all validate a raid. You completely ignore some of the points also.

Your frozen roadblock which we asked to remove or at least be manned was acceptable was it?
People being escorted by cops to cells for visit then being shot by the same cops?
Apartments being raided for no reason other than by metagaming association was acceptable?
As I said above:
Pasarus said "YOU COULD OF DONE THIS PEACEFULLY"

We gave you more than enough time just to talk to us, ONCE. On all of the occasions that we met you, did you? NO.

Your request is flawed.

Ive said all that I got to.
Even after that, you keep arguing with the request.
Just some advices:
You CANNOT raid the president if some of the SS have broken the rules.
You CANNOT raid the president with the reason "Weve killed all the civillians on the street, got killed for that. Now we will kill you(NLR BREAKAGE, incorrect reason TO"
You CAN raid if your base got raided with the reason "CONTRA", that means goverment does Dictators RP, > Raid.
You CANNOT raid the goverment because you got arrested after the hostage RP.
Over of discussion, including in mind all of your BRS at the forum.
P.S: Request is not a usual call on the phone, call is /PM.
Request is official request with the passport, documents, etc.
You was in the apartments and ran away from the gunpoint, so as i said before, you got a lot brs with a randomraids, including the FEARRP in it.
I willnt respond on your messages anymore, waiting for decision of the admin.

[Jacob1029]

You CAN raid if your base got raided with the reason "CONTRA", that means goverment does Dictators RP, > Raid.


Thankyou for verifiying that, you have just proven my case. As I said above, your men raided 2 apartments on different floors, one because of a hostage, one with no proof of anything what so ever. No one was near it, they hit it because of contra and they wanted money.

You CANNOT raid the president if some of the SS have broken the rules.
I agree with you here, if it was a one off. HOWEVER
You was at the raid, you was giving the orders, you was responsible.


You CANNOT raid the president with the reason "Weve killed all the civillians on the street, got killed for that. Now we will kill you(NLR BREAKAGE, incorrect reason TO"
See above.

You CANNOT raid the goverment because you got arrested after the hostage RP.
See above.

P.S: Request is not a usual call on the phone, call is /PM.
Request is official request with the passport, documents, etc.
That's hilarious if that's what you truly think. You use /request to call police,
so you're telling me, that if my brother had just been gundown and he was bleeding to death on the floor, I must get my passport and documents before I can call the ambulance?

You was in the apartments and ran away from the gunpoint
If you mean, I ran when the SS starting shooting the hell out of me unarmed, then yes, funnily enough, I didn't want to die.