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05-14-2015, 05:32 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:04 AM by Fearless Community.
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Alright, so let me tell you what I am observing form OP's video and statements and I will list them along with any comments that I have to make regarding them.
DarkAngel had been stopped for 'illegally parking' on the side of the road, which did warrant him for a fine/citation. The question I have is regarding your statement that you identified him as a Gun Dealer after he raised an attitude with you. My comments/concerns are the following:
Now regarding OP and the Player Report, thank you both for your patience.
While the player in question had seemed to gain information through a form of power-gaming/meta-gaming, to which he supplied on the arrest reason, his statements along with video evidence backs his statement that the reason for arrest was surrounding your failure to comply with his orders.
Denied.
DarkAngel had been stopped for 'illegally parking' on the side of the road, which did warrant him for a fine/citation. The question I have is regarding your statement that you identified him as a Gun Dealer after he raised an attitude with you. My comments/concerns are the following:
- Video #1 shows him arguing with you and a comment can be heard saying '10 seconds' which we can imply is you telling him he has that many seconds to comply with whatever you were asking him to do (I make the assumption it was to face the vehicle or pay the fine, but that information is unimportant). After he begins to argue and question your reasoning you then proceed to detain him with handcuffs which was appropriate according to his failure to follow 148pc regarding delaying/obstructing your duties.
- Video #2 shows the continuation of the argument along with the reasoning for the arrest, which was stated over voice communication as "148pc and weapons are illegal " which brought in the issue surrounding the information that he was a Gun Dealer. As you said, you looked him up in the supposed 'Police Database' which is technically a form of Power-Gaming, which is the act of forcing an action against a player to basically give you the advantage/upperhand. In this case, you are creating a method for you to gain information about his job that he would have no way to argue against. There is no indication that he is a 'licensed' weapons dealer, but you forced that on him by saying you found that through the database. This is an incorrect way of obtaining information, but it has been done before many times so there is no reason to enforce this when it is not widely enforced, nor is it explained in detail in the rules as the Power-Gaming rule currently only shows the example of switching jobs for self-gain. (One way of actually enforcing this IC'ly would be to have a law that made Gun Dealers apply for a license to sell a weapon to actually be able to use that information)
- @Jarz, his statement regarding not selling a weapon was truthful, though he had been in contact with another person but was simply discussing a meet up location to exchange money for ammunition. OP never stated that he never was in talks with anyone about selling weapons, though he did say he did not sell any weapons and I will provide the chat logs to back that up.
Quote:v33x [01:50:07] Doug (STEAM_0:1:58451446) said: /pm Dark I need some ammo
v33x [01:50:37] - \/G - DarkAngelx (STEAM_0:1:41099431) said: /pm Doug Where too sir?
v33x [01:50:37] Doug (STEAM_0:1:58451446) said: /pm dark 7.62x51MM Nato
v33x [01:50:48] Doug (STEAM_0:1:58451446) said: /r Prepare 4 shipments and bring it to the villsa please.
v33x [01:51:18] - \/G - DarkAngelx (STEAM_0:1:41099431) said: /me hands over his license and regs to the officer
v33x [01:51:33] - \/G - DarkAngelx (STEAM_0:1:41099431) said: /pm Doug 1 sec just got pulled over
Now regarding OP and the Player Report, thank you both for your patience.
While the player in question had seemed to gain information through a form of power-gaming/meta-gaming, to which he supplied on the arrest reason, his statements along with video evidence backs his statement that the reason for arrest was surrounding your failure to comply with his orders.
Denied.