Survey - FL Interest

[Haarek]

I know it breaks the core but it's the only option as we've already tried everything else.

That's a ridiculous statement - and one that truly illustrates your tunnel vision.

Players that spend time making nice dupes or RPs for others to participate in are extremely rare now and can't be relied on as it used to be years ago.

How can you expect people to RP and make dupes for a server with no players? Of course they are rare.

AggRP has always not relied too much on others anyway, it has mostly been a choice if you've wanted to raid others or just sit in the corner of the map alone.

AggressiveRP is so much more than raiding others, and it has a lot to do with others. As a matter of fact is has everything to do with others. Absolutely gobsmacked you would come with such an utterance.

Giving more options to the other jobs is all we're really doing, you can still do things the old way if you want to.

That's great, but the "old" way is broken and it needs to be fixed. Which really should be apparent after this discussion.

I think a misconception Haarek and others have is that if we give players nothing to do they'd actually interact and RP.

I have no idea how you got that impression. I could re-iterate what I've said, but let's be honest - it's not going to help. Most respectfully, you have misunderstood.

Farming wasn't the issue, it was extremely popular even after the massive nerf because some players just wanted to chill and grow some plants.

Exactly. People "Chilled and grew some plants" instead of interacting with other players on the server. I suggest: "Chilled and grew some plants and make money". Not exactly beneficial for player interaction or new player retention so sit around in a grass field and do fuck all?

We can't force players to interact with eachother and it's very clear not everyone wants to, turning it into more of an RPG is the only way it can survive.

Yes, you can. And that is exactly what the meta of the gamemode does. In example, if you need to get a gun you need to interact with a gun dealer. If you need a mechanic you need to interact with a mechanic.

and it's very clear not everyone wants to, t

Not everyone wants to interact with other players, fine. But unfortunately if you want to make this gamemode successful again you will need to implement game mechanics that "force" people to interact.

Turning it into more of an RPG is the only way it can survive.

That's, again...
I think the whole collective community just cried a small tear reading that.

The short version of it is the old core of FL doesn't work with newer players

A wild and baseless assumption. However yes, I agree it needs substantial improvement.

if we don't try change it in some way it'll never work.

Totally agreed

We're not getting rid of options, we're just adding more.

Unfortunately the gamemode is more complex than that. In example adding more options to make money: destroyed the economy. I am not advocating against change or more options - however, things need to be implemented properly.

Also, the hard part is definitely implementing ideas. Most bad ideas in the past are due to compromises as the better stuff wasn't possible.

If the idea cannot be implemented properly it is not a good idea. Simple as. Starting to implement such ideas just illustrates lack of insight into the development teams capability.

. Even now most things are primarily just being developed by me

Very reassuring.

It's hard to explain with words but the system is quite cool, hopefully we can show it off more in the new year.

That's great. We all are anxious. And I am sure it will be great.
However, I would also stress to you and anyone reading this to look into fixing the core meta of the gamemode.