Camorro declares war on Lucky 7... Or not?

[don]

This is really getting no where. People are arguing about how a clan has been pulled out of a war when because of their original "passive" stance it would have been nearly impossible to got to war without their consent. Now that they are a group, there are IC reprocussions for their actions, and tbh the guidelines aren't perfect but a solution is not easy and I do think it is better than the previous guidelines which meant their would be no reprocussions for IC clan/group actions. I suggest people read the guidlines before attacking the other side.

great now they are gonna stop us discussing how poor their actions were.

this is another example of the covering up, stop playing the victims what has gone on is fraudulent its a joke.