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01-27-2016, 09:17 PM
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Your Name: Nevy
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:18452963
Your ban ID: 69432
Banned by: [FL] Avgar
Reason: 2.1e Running into the middle of a raid as a citizen
Involved: Multiple individuals.
Why we should unban you:
Synopsis
Joined the server, saw that the server was in a state of chaos as vehicles were barreling down the street running people down and blowing up into other vehicles (Confirmed via logs) and hence I took the opportunity to get out to get my camera out and record events unfolding in my own form of NewsRP. I witnessed CDM and me, along with several individuals, chased the unknown assailant into the Tides Hotel where we surrounded him. He pulled out a weapon, M3 Shotgun to be precise, and as we backed away he fired on an officer who ran up into the Tides Hotel to pursue him. At this point, the criminal had retreated into the Tides hallway where he took protection after seeing multiple police and SWAT moving into the Tides Hotel and take control of the upper lobby area. I positioned myself behind law enforcement and was acting as a camera-man recording the event(s) that were unfolding. Other individuals in the upper area, including one in the 1st hotel room had taken their cameras out to capture the incursion by law enforcement teams. The criminal was hit several times and had retreated into the middle apartment room where he ran inside to possibly perform medical procedures as police and SWAT were moving in. Considering this cease-fire I had repositioned myself at the other side of the Tides Hotel in order to capture the police and SWAT moving into the middle room, which happened so swiftly and the assailant had been terminated inside his apartment. Immediately after the man was killed, I had been brought up onto the roof where the SA [FL] Avgar had informed me that I was currently in violation of rule 2.1e that states that Citizens are not permitted to be in areas that they consider life-threatening or bring a possibility of death. The ban reason stating that I "ran into the middle of a raid" when actually I was performing my own individual role-play and had been there before the police arrived on scene and never actually put myself in harms way as I repositioned myself when I knew the criminal had moved into his room and police were safely moving forward with SWAT leading with riot shields. I was mirroring what the job of a "Nightcrawler" is, which is someone that puts themselves at the scene first and captures raw footage of incidents to then sell thereafter. Being in harms way is apart of the job. Being on the roof allowed [FL] Avgar to input his opinion of the role-play where he stated that such things only exist in movies and are unrealistic, however this is not the case as this is actually a quite common thing. I argued this point however [FL] Avgar did not budge on his opinion of it and from thence argued the point that I was in a life-threatening situation and that is against the rules as a Citizen. I certainly found this to be pushing it and made me consider whether his perspective, likely being phased from an aerial position, gave him a different view of what I saw from a 1st person perspective. Was my character in harms way? That is certainly a good question and if so it could have been handled IC'ly as the job of law enforcement in a situation like that is to remove everyone from the area. My character saw the criminal retreat into his room and only after the firing had stopped for some time did I move (sprint) to the other side of the Hotel hallway. Did I get killed? No. Did I get shot? No. You emphasized the part of the run that says Citizens shall not loiter in these situations yet it was part of my role-play and as such gives me reason to be there and is different than just someone standing there to see law enforcement being shot. I made sure I was not in harms way. I find it hard to believe that such a conclusion can be drawn that simply because I was in the same area I was somehow at risk of being killed and really brings up the question of what can be considered life-threatening. However I wish to contest this ban and have it removed from my record as I contest the claim that I "ran into a raid" as a Citizen when infact I had been there reporting for my RP and never once entered into a life-threatening situation (ie. running into the line of fire, chasing the suspect into his hotel room).
Thanks,
Nevy
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:18452963
Your ban ID: 69432
Banned by: [FL] Avgar
Reason: 2.1e Running into the middle of a raid as a citizen
Involved: Multiple individuals.
Why we should unban you:
Synopsis
Joined the server, saw that the server was in a state of chaos as vehicles were barreling down the street running people down and blowing up into other vehicles (Confirmed via logs) and hence I took the opportunity to get out to get my camera out and record events unfolding in my own form of NewsRP. I witnessed CDM and me, along with several individuals, chased the unknown assailant into the Tides Hotel where we surrounded him. He pulled out a weapon, M3 Shotgun to be precise, and as we backed away he fired on an officer who ran up into the Tides Hotel to pursue him. At this point, the criminal had retreated into the Tides hallway where he took protection after seeing multiple police and SWAT moving into the Tides Hotel and take control of the upper lobby area. I positioned myself behind law enforcement and was acting as a camera-man recording the event(s) that were unfolding. Other individuals in the upper area, including one in the 1st hotel room had taken their cameras out to capture the incursion by law enforcement teams. The criminal was hit several times and had retreated into the middle apartment room where he ran inside to possibly perform medical procedures as police and SWAT were moving in. Considering this cease-fire I had repositioned myself at the other side of the Tides Hotel in order to capture the police and SWAT moving into the middle room, which happened so swiftly and the assailant had been terminated inside his apartment. Immediately after the man was killed, I had been brought up onto the roof where the SA [FL] Avgar had informed me that I was currently in violation of rule 2.1e that states that Citizens are not permitted to be in areas that they consider life-threatening or bring a possibility of death. The ban reason stating that I "ran into the middle of a raid" when actually I was performing my own individual role-play and had been there before the police arrived on scene and never actually put myself in harms way as I repositioned myself when I knew the criminal had moved into his room and police were safely moving forward with SWAT leading with riot shields. I was mirroring what the job of a "Nightcrawler" is, which is someone that puts themselves at the scene first and captures raw footage of incidents to then sell thereafter. Being in harms way is apart of the job. Being on the roof allowed [FL] Avgar to input his opinion of the role-play where he stated that such things only exist in movies and are unrealistic, however this is not the case as this is actually a quite common thing. I argued this point however [FL] Avgar did not budge on his opinion of it and from thence argued the point that I was in a life-threatening situation and that is against the rules as a Citizen. I certainly found this to be pushing it and made me consider whether his perspective, likely being phased from an aerial position, gave him a different view of what I saw from a 1st person perspective. Was my character in harms way? That is certainly a good question and if so it could have been handled IC'ly as the job of law enforcement in a situation like that is to remove everyone from the area. My character saw the criminal retreat into his room and only after the firing had stopped for some time did I move (sprint) to the other side of the Hotel hallway. Did I get killed? No. Did I get shot? No. You emphasized the part of the run that says Citizens shall not loiter in these situations yet it was part of my role-play and as such gives me reason to be there and is different than just someone standing there to see law enforcement being shot. I made sure I was not in harms way. I find it hard to believe that such a conclusion can be drawn that simply because I was in the same area I was somehow at risk of being killed and really brings up the question of what can be considered life-threatening. However I wish to contest this ban and have it removed from my record as I contest the claim that I "ran into a raid" as a Citizen when infact I had been there reporting for my RP and never once entered into a life-threatening situation (ie. running into the line of fire, chasing the suspect into his hotel room).
Thanks,
Nevy