Admin Abuse on Grub

[Ali]

Here are a couple of quotes from yourself in the thread you posted:

An average person could not have just free'd themselves so why not make it that if an admin is raiding someone and gets stuck they cannot use their powers to unstuck themselves and instead have to do what anyone else would have had to do and use and @ call? Being able to free yourself and not having to wait for an @ call response (For however many times you got stuck) definitely gave you an advantage. The rule I referenced says that you cannot use no clip during a raid so why was it ok for you to use it here?

"No it did not lead to this being true or it would not have been denied. Even if your prop was welded and frozen I could not have undone the welds."

If you cannot undo welds with your admin physgun then this statement is invalid but this is the response I gave to Hitman to explain why we think you unwelded the wall making it fall over. "Also as you said yourself you are stuck in the wall that's why he used the prop gun to get you out so at that means that the wall at that point was frozen. As you can see later in the video when I leave to go back to my base and then come back all of the sudden I can move the prop with my character. I was the only one with access to the prop and you can see during the video that I do not touch it with my phys gun."
(I did not say that I had evidence of you using it but I did say that I had very compelling "suggested evidence")

"You can stop pulling up the admin abuse case as it has no true valid point to this."

The only time I have brought it up in this post was in the main post and that was purely for contexts sake, DVN brought up the abuse report and I commented on it.

"A admin or mod are allowed to free themselves, using no clip, from being stuck inside of something just like we would do for any normal player if they sent in an @ call saying that they were stuck. We asre not abusing our powers or having an unfair advantage."

You keep referencing that you gain an advantage by doing this. You do gain an advantage (My response above). and the specific thing I am referencing has nothing to do with gaining an advantage, you do not need to have even gained an advantage for this rule to apply to you, all you need to do is to use noclip while helping your friend raid which you did several times.

You follow exactly these two things:

1. You helped your friend during a raid
2. You used noclip while doing this

how does that not apply to this rule that was written by Soulripper "Using noclip or teleport to help some friends in a raid." ?

And now you're trying to tell us it wasn't about your closed abuse thread?

"The only time I have brought it up in this post was in the main post and that was purely for contexts sake, DVN brought up the abuse report and I commented on it."

Nighthawkd and DVN both came into the thread referencing the post directly this is how the series of posts go.

Nighthawkd: Saying that he did not gain anything from the time he used it and that when he and Hitman used this it was not to their advantage.

Zerdrick: I said that being able to use your abilities instead of using and @ call is advantageous and that admins should have to do what regular people should have to do when raiding.

DVN: He says that its ok for admins to free themselves because its a waste of time to call in another admin and then directly references the admin abuse post by saying that Nighthawkd did not gain access to the base with noclip

Zerdrick: So I shared some counter points of mine from the case with him.

Nighthawkd: And then Nighthawkd accuses me of bringing up the case and reinstates what he did earlier about how he was not gaining an advantage

Zerdrick: I respond saying that I said i did not have evidence of him knocking over our wall and that I never brought up the case other than for context reasons in the main post and I quoted a response of mine to DVN.

Nighthawkd: Keeps saying that he never gained an advantage from the raid and that what he did was not wrong (Which it was deemed to be not rule breaking)

Zerdrick: I link my response from DVN again and say you did gain an advantage and by this time we are already way off track.

Nighthawkd: He says he never gained an advantage other than not having to wait, so now all of the sudden he is saying he gained an advantage, and he says that I never thought of this post until the event happened (Which I did not because I never thought that this specific event would even happen)

Jan, you are taking some quotes out of context, I never personally brought up the case and was only responding to Nighthawkd who was trying to make a point of him not gaining an advantage and that what he did was not wrong (Which the admin abuse case being denied showed was true). I was trying to see how other people felt about this incident while in the initial post trying to not say anything that could be considered as provocative. But Nighthawkd for some reason wanted to argue the case with me again.