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02-15-2015, 12:22 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:03 AM by Fearless Community.
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I was a witness to this and I was even able to examine the site of the admin abuse. This is my whole take on the situation: Temar is guilty of admin abuse in the sense of using his admin abilities to cancel a raid that was on his base and the usage of "god mode" (a state where someone is invincible and unable to die) by setting himself into another gamemode*.
The way this whole system works on the Minecraft server is that a player may create a faction (a clan) and invite other players (current maximum is 8). Every player has a set amount of "power" which allows them to claim land and make it so that they're the only one that can access it unless certain permissions are edited. The rule is to have less land than you have power. For when your power falls below your current level of land, another player can capture and make that section their own in a situation like a raid. An important note is to make is that what Noda said above is very true that a week ago, you were unable to claim land that wasn't connected to the first section [a fairly stupid feature if I do say so myself {this will become semi-valid information later}]. This feature is what Temar has intended the server to be like, but after what seemed like a lot of prodding, he agreed to change this. This does contridect what Temar has said to me today, February 14th of 2015, when I was having a talk with him on Steam. See below for the conversation, a tl;dr will be provided below
Gamemode*: In Minecraft, for those of you who have not played it, there are a handful of gamemodes a player/administrator can set themselves into while on a server or single-player. Each of these gamemodes have certain names and features to them, and the gamemode Temar was in at the time was known as "Gamemode 0" or "Creative mode". In this feature, a person cannot: take fall damage, take damage from any hostile force, is not visible to monsters unless said player in question attacks said monster, and cannot die/be harmed by most commands. This person can: deal damage, fly, and spawn in any item they desire (which is untraceable).
tl;dr
In short, Temar has stated that the way the current claiming system is set up to where you may claim any plot of land as long as long as you have the power for it is "bugged" and not the intended way. This contradicts my knowledge of the situation as I was told by [FL] Vauld that he had spoken to Temar and convinced him that this is not a fun way to play the game and that the current, "bugged," method is better. A day or two that Vauld talked to Temar about this, the change was made to the "bugged" gamemode state where you could claim land anywhere.
Now we get to the current situation at hand which was explained by Ghostkiller prior to my comment. Ghost was besieging the base of TheGreatPirates and after killing a few of the members of said faction, Temar entered the situation while in god mode and forcefully claimed all of the land that Ghost and his associate(s) had taken. *Please note that Ghost had more power than land at the time so the action of forcefully taking the land away from him could've only been done through the actions of an admin. So in doing this, Ghostkiller and associate(s) were left trapped in the newly claimed enemy land and left to wait as Temar went AFK (away from keyboard) for several minutes.
In this comment, Temar makes a blatant statement saying that after leaving Ghost stuck he would not release him because it was "Ghost's" fault for using a warp command ("/sethome <name>") to enter the area. This is a completely legal and available command to all players on the server so leaving Ghost to wait after he performed an administrative action proved to be even more abusive. Ghost had committed an action that he did not know was abusive as it had never been announced to anyone (to my and many others' knowledge) that this was a bug and needed to be fixed.
Conversation with Temar
http://i.imgur.com/Qg3rx3I.png
Final Verdict
Temar is guilty of these actions of admin abuse:
-Setting himself in a gamemode to prevent from being killed in a fight to gain an advantage over the player.
-Forcefully claiming land that another player had control of and had the power to keep
-Leaving a player intentionally trapped in an area after an admin action was just committed
-Failing to explain to the players that committing a commonly performed action on a faction server is abuse
Personal Thoughts
In a faction server, you should have the ability to claim land wherever you'd like, as long as you have the power for said land. This is what makes raiding and playing on a factions server possible. It is not fun to raid an enemy when all they can do is close their doors and laugh at you for trying to do such a funny thing on a gamemode where you should be afraid of getting raided. If the proper way this server is supposed to be set up as is where you can only claim land next to your first square, then I can assure you that many people, including myself, will not be interested in playing on this server. At the moment, I am currently disgusted with the way the server is being managed and Temar's actions. I, personally, believe that he is bending the rules of the faction server and turning on/off functions for his own advantage. I believe that he committed these actions today for his clan, once one of the most powerful, was going to fall. To use admin powers to keep a clan alive is very low and should not be tolerated by the players of this. If these actions continue, I will certainly leave the server because I don't want to play with an owner that has such a twisted idea that he can ruin the fun for everyone else so that he may.
The way this whole system works on the Minecraft server is that a player may create a faction (a clan) and invite other players (current maximum is 8). Every player has a set amount of "power" which allows them to claim land and make it so that they're the only one that can access it unless certain permissions are edited. The rule is to have less land than you have power. For when your power falls below your current level of land, another player can capture and make that section their own in a situation like a raid. An important note is to make is that what Noda said above is very true that a week ago, you were unable to claim land that wasn't connected to the first section [a fairly stupid feature if I do say so myself {this will become semi-valid information later}]. This feature is what Temar has intended the server to be like, but after what seemed like a lot of prodding, he agreed to change this. This does contridect what Temar has said to me today, February 14th of 2015, when I was having a talk with him on Steam. See below for the conversation, a tl;dr will be provided below
Gamemode*: In Minecraft, for those of you who have not played it, there are a handful of gamemodes a player/administrator can set themselves into while on a server or single-player. Each of these gamemodes have certain names and features to them, and the gamemode Temar was in at the time was known as "Gamemode 0" or "Creative mode". In this feature, a person cannot: take fall damage, take damage from any hostile force, is not visible to monsters unless said player in question attacks said monster, and cannot die/be harmed by most commands. This person can: deal damage, fly, and spawn in any item they desire (which is untraceable).
tl;dr
In short, Temar has stated that the way the current claiming system is set up to where you may claim any plot of land as long as long as you have the power for it is "bugged" and not the intended way. This contradicts my knowledge of the situation as I was told by [FL] Vauld that he had spoken to Temar and convinced him that this is not a fun way to play the game and that the current, "bugged," method is better. A day or two that Vauld talked to Temar about this, the change was made to the "bugged" gamemode state where you could claim land anywhere.
Now we get to the current situation at hand which was explained by Ghostkiller prior to my comment. Ghost was besieging the base of TheGreatPirates and after killing a few of the members of said faction, Temar entered the situation while in god mode and forcefully claimed all of the land that Ghost and his associate(s) had taken. *Please note that Ghost had more power than land at the time so the action of forcefully taking the land away from him could've only been done through the actions of an admin. So in doing this, Ghostkiller and associate(s) were left trapped in the newly claimed enemy land and left to wait as Temar went AFK (away from keyboard) for several minutes.
(02-14-2015, 10:22 PM)Temar Wrote: Oh and your comment about getting abit stuck
Well that's not my fault you setup warps for raiding and then warp onto our land (something I will fix )
In this comment, Temar makes a blatant statement saying that after leaving Ghost stuck he would not release him because it was "Ghost's" fault for using a warp command ("/sethome <name>") to enter the area. This is a completely legal and available command to all players on the server so leaving Ghost to wait after he performed an administrative action proved to be even more abusive. Ghost had committed an action that he did not know was abusive as it had never been announced to anyone (to my and many others' knowledge) that this was a bug and needed to be fixed.
Conversation with Temar
http://i.imgur.com/Qg3rx3I.png
Final Verdict
Temar is guilty of these actions of admin abuse:
-Setting himself in a gamemode to prevent from being killed in a fight to gain an advantage over the player.
-Forcefully claiming land that another player had control of and had the power to keep
-Leaving a player intentionally trapped in an area after an admin action was just committed
-Failing to explain to the players that committing a commonly performed action on a faction server is abuse
Personal Thoughts
In a faction server, you should have the ability to claim land wherever you'd like, as long as you have the power for said land. This is what makes raiding and playing on a factions server possible. It is not fun to raid an enemy when all they can do is close their doors and laugh at you for trying to do such a funny thing on a gamemode where you should be afraid of getting raided. If the proper way this server is supposed to be set up as is where you can only claim land next to your first square, then I can assure you that many people, including myself, will not be interested in playing on this server. At the moment, I am currently disgusted with the way the server is being managed and Temar's actions. I, personally, believe that he is bending the rules of the faction server and turning on/off functions for his own advantage. I believe that he committed these actions today for his clan, once one of the most powerful, was going to fall. To use admin powers to keep a clan alive is very low and should not be tolerated by the players of this. If these actions continue, I will certainly leave the server because I don't want to play with an owner that has such a twisted idea that he can ruin the fun for everyone else so that he may.