Ban Request - chocbar98

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I would just like to highlight the problems behind this statement:

We don't spend our entire time scrolling down through the scoreboard to see whatever generic unofficial faction someone has created today.

Firstly, it wasn't a faction. It was a roleplay group.
Secondly, it is therefore your fault for not paying attention to the scoreboard. You cannot blame someone else for your own ignorance.

A roleplay group, aka a faction.
To involve the scoreboard in our roleplay would be metagaming, as the scoreboard is not an IC feature.

Thus, the statement below is very incorrect.

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The fact that you got yourself killed is cannot be blamed on mine nor Charlie's shoulders;
You pulled the trigger.

You STOLE the document (note). You triggered it.

Moreover,

Stealing almost insignificant items(such as notes, fish, props, knifes etc) would not be deemed aggressive enough to provoke the response you gave

taking a note is not an appropriate "trigger" to kill someone,

The item wasn't insignificant. In terms of roleplay, it was a document, in which we would have killed you for. Contextually, it had all the names and details of the Bermuda Mafia Members, hidden from the government. Therefore my actions were appropriate, as calling the police would get the note in the wrong hands, you were a threat, we had one choice - to kill you.

That is your defence, you've made that clear, please stop bringing it up as some way to argue what happened. You've made it clear. Whether or not your characters background justifies killing over the note is down to the admins to decide. That is the whole point of this thread.

e feel what you did was in violation of the rules, and had the evidence to back up what happened. There is no lack of evidence to prove our version of events,

Unfortunately, your evidence is incomplete and does not show what occurred beforehand. Additionally, your summary of events does not count as evidence. If it does, then my account of you punchwhoring is solid evidence.

On that matter, your summary of events is yet again biased, and incorrect.[/u]

1)We arrive in our vehicle, and I enter the shop that is fully open and welcoming people in, I see the note on the desk(your only argument to this so far has been that you think it should have been away, but you are unsure).
2)I am shot at with full intent to kill as I leave in my vehicle(You have stated that you fired a full magazine into my vehicle, this is not a warning, this is an attempt to kill the driver).
3)Dave decides to start recording and return, repeating my exact actions, and is welcomed into the store(as clearly shown in the video). He picks up the note(this time, behind the desk, but still within a public store), and is shot down without warning.

Allow me to Pick out faults in your summary.
1) I had placed the note on the floor behind the desk, after using it as an RP item with the hostage SRU.
2) You were shot at as you entered your vehicle. Charlie then obtained the note from the front window of the truck returning it to the shop. A clear lie.
3) Correct. I wonder why you were killed without warning? Perhaps you had already been warned.

Furthermore, the fact that this ban request is biased is seen, due to the fact that you ONLY LATER admit to appearing at the shop before the events occur. This clearly shows that both you an ilmon3y are masking the story in favor of getting me banned.

It's been stated from the start we went twice.

We were roleplaying as pikeys hunting around for junk laying around the map when we entered their shop, it was slightly chaotic at the time when we entered their(fully open) store. We saw a clipboard named "Bermuda fact file"(A fairly innocent name with no obvious labelling such as top secret), and walked out with it. They yelled to stop as we got into our truck and left, as we were leaving the slums, we were greeted with automatic gunfire from a black market dealer with the job "'Fish merchant'".

2)I am shot at with full intent to kill as I leave in my vehicle(You have stated that you fired a full magazine into my vehicle, this is not a warning, this is an attempt to kill the driver).

How is there a "clear lie"?
There is no bias, it clearly shows what happened the second time we went, and from your statements, it clearly reflects the first time we were there, as you make no denial of firing a full magazine at me as your "warning", and there is no disagreement over the chain of events(other than you rewording what I said and then saying my wording is a clear lie). I do not need evidence to back up something which we both agree on. You have thrown an accusation of punchwhoring which you "are fairly sure it was us", but you don't know, and we deny it, that is where evidence is needed.
When person A and person B both describe the same chain of events, there is no need for either party to provide evidence.

Therefore, your case against me is nul and void; I am not guilty of Random Deathmatch - you are both guilty of FearRP, FailRP and moreso, Metagaming. You can't press charges without a full story. Dave obtained evidence by harassing a scenario, as stated in:

Dave decides to start recording and return

That's not genuine. That's framing someone. Additionally, what gives you the right to metagame, film, frame and ruin someone's RP. Just because you are an experienced player, with a lot of hours, it does not mean you can step on other people's feet.

Had Dave passively filmed the events, I would not accuse him of attempting to frame me. In a past ban request made by Dave, he passively filmed me throwing a molotov, randomly. However in this case, Dave triggers his own death by stealing from us, after being warned once before, in an attempt to get footage. I wouldn't do it. Charlie wouldn't do it. I don't think anyone with any decency would do it.

You mean, repeating exactly what we did before, and getting almost the exact same response(as you have said, your warning was firing a full magazine at me, this is not a warning, this is an attempt to kill me) is trying to frame you? You keep saying we have only half the story, and that we're lacking evidence, but you do not deny our version of events at all. The only difference between these events is, as I have said multiple times before, you failed to kill me in what was very likely an attack which would have proven fatal to me had I not gotten out the vehicle, and that we say the note was on the desk(which cannot be proven, which if anything, is something in your favour).

Again with the harassment topic, as a member of the Fearless Community, I feel as if you are attempting to aggravate, harrass and intentionally ruin our experience on CityRP. Should this occur again, I will post a ban request and press charges of harrassment against VanillaTeaCakes and ilmon3y. Your actions in game were wrong, in violation of the rules and moreover the Fearless Terms of Service

Under Section 1.12, it is clearly stated that:

You must not use the Services to harm others or the Services. For example, you must not:
� use the Services to harm, threaten, or harass another person, organization, or Fearless;

Through this compilation of comments made between you against us, as seen in the YouTube video and as a screenshot from Charlie, showing a comment made by Dave, I can clearly say that you are harassing us, which violates the Fearless Terms of Service.
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Feel free to submit your evidence in a seperate ban request.