Suggestion - Allow Police to use M4

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Why are you people trying to get this much reality in the game. I hear thousands saying ''Uuh police wears m4 all the time'', ''Mah uncle is cup and he weers m4''. This is FL, if you get cops to use M4A1's you will actually take 1 of the donator benefits.

As you will ruin the job 'SRU' totally. What is the point of being SRU if police will spawn with the same weapon?
Police may also patrol, I don't like to see 7 people walking around heavily armed on the streets 24/7.

I see absolutely NO point in doing this. ''Adds reality'', the ***? If you want reality go play some HL2RP or something. It won't even add reality, as reality is for everyone different. If the cops in Netherland fire they will get a whole proces of 1 week. While in your country a cop can walk around in the city with a M4A1 in his hand.

-support.

(it's called semi-serious, It's not lite, it's not dark, and it's not serious. If it were SERIOUS, you'd be in the jails until someone let you out, and no one would have a gun aside from cops, so feel lucky that you even have one. If it were LITE or DARK, well I could just call it a fuckfest waiting to happen, since there's no such ideals as FearRP or 5-15 minute arrests.)

Did I say something about FL being serious, Lite, Dark or anything else, no? And yes I think you are talking to me, before you are even going to ask me.

Also may I ask why you made this big of a post. Are you trying to get attention? Or is it just your bad attitude.

Now to the suggestion again, you know there are server rules?
If a cop knows those rules he can easy RP and have fun.
FearRP, a cop can easily get a criminal by making him obey FearRP.

I think it is really not needed to add m4a1's in the cop their games.
-Police doesn't have a big hour restriction.
-Not looking forward to cops walking around town with M4a1's in their hand.
-The SRU job will be unneeded, there will be no backup calls anymore etc.
-Police can equip MP5, shotgun etc. I don't think it is just needed to add a M4A1 to their equipment, just because they want to kill more criminals.

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no, I wasn't typing to you, I just quoted your text because it seemed like a good idea at the time.
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Yes, I think it's a common link that can be made to say that I was referring to you as I typed my post up. It's also strange how you think: big post=rage/attention. Communicating a point which seems to have missed a target.

As any intelligent person would hopefully understand, I was trying to make an example because you mentioned serious roleplay (IE: HL2RP). I apologize if you had trouble following.
Do not patronize me about server rules. I've been a part of this community for 2 years.
Police officers are never equipped to be a match to a common criminal on FL. A MP5 in the game is not a contest when you see everyone else armed with an AK (highest damage in the gamemode) or a galil (second highest + high rate of fire). I'd say that criminals are still unmatched by the government.

http://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php...pon+Damage

"-Police doesn't have a big hour restriction."
And? SRU have even less of a requirement for hours, and anyone who donates money is able to use the class (able to use sniper rifles and comes standard with a UMP).
"-Not looking forward to cops walking around town with M4a1's in their hand."
I'm sure you aren't, but that's why the rifles stay in the trunk or in the seat holster until they're needed.
"-The SRU job will be unneeded, there will be no backup calls anymore etc."
Says who? Only the SRU can use sniper rifles, and when it comes to backup, there's no such thing as too much.
"-Police can equip MP5, shotgun etc. I don't think it is just needed to add a M4A1 to their equipment, just because they want to kill more criminals."
I think 'evening out the playing field' is a better description. I prefer arresting criminals but I can't exactly perform my job without injury when I've got a nine millimeter to the bad guy where they have a rifle with a round chambered that can shred my soft vest like paper.

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the MP5 just doesn't cut it.

Everyone has their own preferences, i consider MP5 as good enough weapon, outperformed people with M4 not just once, since it's not that good weapon aswell, if you say that MP5 is bad.

I think that you should also factor ingame variables, server lag, clientside lag, the skill of either shooter, and then the damage of the weapons factor in. Sure, I can kill someone with a MP5, it's just a pain in the ass to do. And you base your argument off of the fact that it can be done, not much else? "We have this, it works a moderate percent of the time, you shouldn't need anything else."

And more than likely, they won't spawn with it. They will have to equip it just like any other SRU.

No one from the other side of the law is spawning with guns aswell. They are equipping it later or sooner, Police Officer can do same thing but of course you're risking losing your weapon, while taking this risk into consideration, i'm for example always equipping a MP5 as officer, so that argument isn't really right, not to mention police officers have a free kevlar, usp and alot of ammo, while, for example rebels not. (I have seen enough situations when rebels were unarmed or poorly armed and cops had their free pistols + kevlar and other stuff, automatically outperforming them).

A USP really doens't matter in the end, when you have to include that you must use your own ammo to get an MP5 on your person. It uses the exact same ammo as a M4 in the game. (why? I've got no idea. Since it hasn't been changed it's a legitimate argument.)
Yeah, cops have their free gun, against "situations when rebels were unarmed or poorly armed", but what about fighting someone who knows their way around a weapon moreso than you do, and has a budget for a better one? You're essentially screwed. That being said, one might consider that the M4 would be a waste seeing as it really only does partially better than a MP5. But I can safely say the officer in question knows the risk when he equips his own weapon, so why, in that way, should it be limited?

It's simply a statement that the government is a real threat to any criminal faction.

- 6 Police Officers + 1 Police Sergeant (all equipped with MP5 and free kevlar)
- 3 SRU Agents + 1 SRU Sergeant (let's say, all of them equipped with M4 and free kevlar)

Yes, they are serious threat to ANY criminal faction, considering a criminal faction has around 7 people, generally less participants in gunfights.


There are of course, that group of people who enjoy roleplaying but don't want to or can't be bothered to donate to the server for the donor benefits? What if they don't have the ability to join the SRU or don't want to, and what if there is a bunch of SRU that really have a small ability at best to perform their duties. Even better, what if there's just a team of police officers, and no SRU? Are you saying that all is balanced regardless? You make that argument based on the assumption that both parts of the government will be full of adequate shooters, even nowadays when the population is not even close to being 50/50 sometimes. I prefer playing as a regular police officer because it has approximately 1/3 the red tape that the SRU has. They're more versatile, can deploy quicker to a situation (because, you know, they can patrol)and are able to contain a situation by themselves if they're well organized. There simply comes the time when the police are outgunned and outranged because all they can equip are submachine guns (the flaw in range) and the M3 shotgun (10 yards fatal, any further they're cotton candy.) I feel like criminals should act wary even if there isn't a team of somewhat organized SRU on the server.

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I'll go ahead and say it. The MP5 sucks ass, and the shells from a shotgun ingame turn to cotton candy at the ranges a rifle should be used in. I'm also going to point out another in-server issue that an organized and effective team of SRU officers aren't always on standby, leaving the regulars to fend for themselves.. and I could say it again, every squad car in my town has an AR and a shotgun in it, though I'd say that trend started with park rangers.

Very nice, but most of the cops from other countries don't, it doesn't matter that every squad car in your town has an AR. To keep it realistic and make actually some difference between police force and SRU, they shouldn't have access to it on FL. Evocity is not USA, i think police force should look like regular force looks like and do their BASIC job. For more dangerous situations, SRU should be called. It's alright how it looks like right now, nothing needs to be changed, they got already a shotgun, enough. By the way, for me the MP5 in-game is pretty nice, at least for me, IRL it's standard-issue weapon for many police forces in european countries and not only, police in my country is using AKMS, doesn't mean police here must get access to AK.

No, I don't think I mentioned that the AR is localized to where I lived, despite the fact that I've posted at least six other examples of local, county, or state police with their ARs poised. I'll find a US Park Ranger(Federal Government) holding one if it makes you any happier.
And let's not forget that multiple significant individuals, on previous posts, on a number of occasions, have referred to EvoCity as a "contingent of the United States." I could find a quote for you if you wish.
And where do you make the connection automatically that EvoCity is in Europe? The last Bank of America building I've seen in another country was a skyscraper, not a small city branch.
And at the end of your statement you make an analogy that since you won't get the rifle that the police in your country have, that the police here (based off of a US police officer's uniform /etcetc) won't be more heavily armed. I'm assuming that the crime in your country or the people who own automatic rifles aren't as plentiful as found in FL:RP's EvoCity.