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06-26-2012, 12:59 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:01 AM by Fearless Community.
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I agree with Joey a lot, but I also have to somewhat agree with Nudelholz.
buuuutt.....
To add, I completely support Catkillerfive, people get banned way to easily on this server.
I am expecting the generic "We have rules and you have to follow them." response, but so many players are suggesting a different way of handling such situations, maybe for once try something new and see how it works out? I know I'm new here but it isn't hard to spot the obvious faults in the community.
I'm sorry if I disrespected any admins over the course of this post. It's my opinion and at least that, I feel that I can share without getting banned.
I've never been a moderator, but I've observed countless moderators in a number of communities I've been a part of, and to each it's own drama. I've never been a leading role in any community but if I was, I would listen, and keep on listening to the players.
I cannot share to you how many times I've been ignored by the admins in game. Once, I had my car stuck in the floor and had to wait 30 minutes for a new admin to come online, who then unstuck my friends car, but quickly left leaving mine stuck in the floor. I couldn't disconnect, because I had my contraband, props and Rebel Leader post and it was too much to loose. Then 15 minutes later, after a number of requests sent to the admins again. The same admin came back and deleted my car so I can spawn it again. There was another admin online throughout all of this, yet I haven't gotten a single response from her/him the whole time. Nor do I ever get it. The one and only time throughout all my hours of gaming, I spoke to him/her and got a reply, only to find out she/he won't help me. (Some guy broke the rules, but he/she didn't want to listen. So she said she couldn't do anything about it.)
This is not just me, others who were playing on the server when I was said in OOC that admins only help donors. I don't know if it was true, because I actually considered that it might actually be true, since they never help me and when I see the "XXX teleported to YYY", YYY is usually a donor.
I will not name anyone. It will only generate hatred towards me.
Thank You very much!
EDIT:
I messaged the admin, telling him that he lied, but got no reply. I messaged him a few more times, yet no response (A lot like this server.)
Anyhow, after 2 rounds were completed, I tried to talk with him again, and he replied saying that it's childish of me to bring up something that happened five rounds ago, and told me to stop talking about it. But it was only two rounds ago and I was trying to shed some light on him.
I was frustrated that this guy gets away with falsely accusing me of RDM. I then ask a question, "Do you really want that lying asshole to poison this server more?"
He banned me. Then he banned me on the forums when I went to discuss the ban.
I hope you saw the downside of the rule.
Overall, a good admin should be wise and experienced, not afraid to be wrong, and should listen and give reason to all actions. To add, the admins mustn't promote favoritism and should give a chance to everyone, especially new players.
Quote:Admins are authorities, if people are able to behave disrespectful opposite admins and do whatever they please to the admin is no authority anymore.Agree.
buuuutt.....
Quote:So players insulting admins should not be banned anymore. That sounds legit.I think he meant that admins just accuse the person in the argument of "Admin Disrespect", therefore scaring the player into shutting up, so the admin's opinion goes unchallenged and is shoved into the throats of others. I haven't seen any of that in this server (Mainly because 95% of my @chat, PM's and Et cetera gets ignored.), but I've seen it being done in many other servers. Not to mention the support that the arguer gets is zero since everyone blindly supports the admin.
To add, I completely support Catkillerfive, people get banned way to easily on this server.
I am expecting the generic "We have rules and you have to follow them." response, but so many players are suggesting a different way of handling such situations, maybe for once try something new and see how it works out? I know I'm new here but it isn't hard to spot the obvious faults in the community.
I'm sorry if I disrespected any admins over the course of this post. It's my opinion and at least that, I feel that I can share without getting banned.
I've never been a moderator, but I've observed countless moderators in a number of communities I've been a part of, and to each it's own drama. I've never been a leading role in any community but if I was, I would listen, and keep on listening to the players.
I cannot share to you how many times I've been ignored by the admins in game. Once, I had my car stuck in the floor and had to wait 30 minutes for a new admin to come online, who then unstuck my friends car, but quickly left leaving mine stuck in the floor. I couldn't disconnect, because I had my contraband, props and Rebel Leader post and it was too much to loose. Then 15 minutes later, after a number of requests sent to the admins again. The same admin came back and deleted my car so I can spawn it again. There was another admin online throughout all of this, yet I haven't gotten a single response from her/him the whole time. Nor do I ever get it. The one and only time throughout all my hours of gaming, I spoke to him/her and got a reply, only to find out she/he won't help me. (Some guy broke the rules, but he/she didn't want to listen. So she said she couldn't do anything about it.)
This is not just me, others who were playing on the server when I was said in OOC that admins only help donors. I don't know if it was true, because I actually considered that it might actually be true, since they never help me and when I see the "XXX teleported to YYY", YYY is usually a donor.
I will not name anyone. It will only generate hatred towards me.
Thank You very much!
EDIT:
Quote:If a user keeps discussing after an admin told him not to (especially on the server) the admin has every right to ban him or punish him in another way.So, this is something I've experienced in another server. I got slayed on a TTT server, because apparently, I killed the traitor with only suspicion, when I was 100% that he was a traitor, because he threw a knife into the air.
I messaged the admin, telling him that he lied, but got no reply. I messaged him a few more times, yet no response (A lot like this server.)
Anyhow, after 2 rounds were completed, I tried to talk with him again, and he replied saying that it's childish of me to bring up something that happened five rounds ago, and told me to stop talking about it. But it was only two rounds ago and I was trying to shed some light on him.
I was frustrated that this guy gets away with falsely accusing me of RDM. I then ask a question, "Do you really want that lying asshole to poison this server more?"
He banned me. Then he banned me on the forums when I went to discuss the ban.
I hope you saw the downside of the rule.
Overall, a good admin should be wise and experienced, not afraid to be wrong, and should listen and give reason to all actions. To add, the admins mustn't promote favoritism and should give a chance to everyone, especially new players.