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RE: Discussion on Antifa - lordofthesilver - 05-22-2017
(05-22-2017, 02:08 PM)Marty Wrote:(05-22-2017, 11:28 AM)Holdem Wrote: Every group has black sheep in them. I'm sure there are many Antifa's who do not want to use violence and I'm sure there are many Antifa's who do want to use violence, though I don't personally consider them a "Terrorist" organization as (as far as I'm aware) they're not making car bombs to kill people. There's a difference between someone who destroys shops because they're unhappy with Capitalism to someone who wants to kill people to instigate terror, like ISIS, the IRA in Ireland or ETA in Spain.
Anyhow, it seems like a delicate subject that is going to be completely biased. As for the statement saying "Fascism is dead in 2017", I'm sorry but that is complete lies and a very dangerous thing to believe in. Fascism is on the rise more than ever since the end of WWII all through the western world. An example of this is looking at how close countries such as Austria, Netherlands or France have been in voting in a Far right political party to run the country. Also, look at the statistics of Nordic countries or any other EU country for that matter and see how much far right political parties are growing in number of supporters, as well as a huge increase of racist/xenophobic attacks, especially here in Britain after the Brexit vote.
Do not believe the lies: Fascism/Far right is on the rise in Europe at a very dangerous speed, denying it is simply choosing to be ignorant and ignore the numbers/statistics/facts that can be easily found on the internet.
You've hit the nail on the head once again.
Maybe articulated yourself better than I have in the last few pages lol. But people just don't want to believe these parties are Fascist, the likes of your ale Pen in France, Nigel Farage in the U.K., Hofer in Austria and Geert Wilders in the Netherlands.
What's is deeply troubling is that people don't realize how blatantly fascist and racist these parties are.
I wouldn't look at not accepting refugees as racist. Refugees are actually fuckingg up some countries, like France, which is one of the most diverse countries in Europe. Its just not working out properly, the stream of refugees needs to be limited if you don't want a totally fuckedd up subcontinent.
There's a very large difference from conservatism and fascism, That's just like me saying that socialists and communists are the same.
There is a rise on nationalism in Europe, i am not gonna deny it. I am not saying its a bad thing either.
RE: Discussion on Antifa - Bobby - 05-22-2017
Refugees come from all across the world and not just a certain place. I agree that it is not racist. You gotta Integrate to Immigrate.
RE: Discussion on Antifa - Archer - 05-22-2017
Refugees increased crime and terror attacks in Turkey.I fear Europe will suffer the same fate.
RE: Discussion on Antifa - Eclipze - 05-22-2017
(05-22-2017, 07:46 PM)TieDye Wrote: Refugees come from all across the world and not just a certain place. I agree that it is not racist. You gotta Integrate to Immigrate.
But how are people supposed to integrate when they are put in areas with only refugees and none Swedes? One of the major part of swedens big problem.
RE: Discussion on Antifa - Bobby - 05-22-2017
(05-22-2017, 07:51 PM)Eclipze Wrote:(05-22-2017, 07:46 PM)TieDye Wrote: Refugees come from all across the world and not just a certain place. I agree that it is not racist. You gotta Integrate to Immigrate.
But how are people supposed to integrate when they are put in areas with only refugees and none Swedes? One of the major part of swedens big problem.
A lot of them do this by choice.
RE: Discussion on Antifa - lordofthesilver - 05-22-2017
(05-22-2017, 07:51 PM)Eclipze Wrote:(05-22-2017, 07:46 PM)TieDye Wrote: Refugees come from all across the world and not just a certain place. I agree that it is not racist. You gotta Integrate to Immigrate.
But how are people supposed to integrate when they are put in areas with only refugees and none Swedes? One of the major part of Sweden's big problem.
That's the problem, they are being put in areas with swedes, most refugees come from Islamic countries and just don't have compatible cultures.
You saw what happened in the old Yugoslavia, Its gonna happen in the rest Europe if we don't stop with this multicultural nonsense, European and Arabian cultures are not compatible.
Religious and Cultural divides create ethnic tension.
RE: Discussion on Antifa - Eclipze - 05-22-2017
(05-22-2017, 07:53 PM)TieDye Wrote:(05-22-2017, 07:51 PM)Eclipze Wrote:(05-22-2017, 07:46 PM)TieDye Wrote: Refugees come from all across the world and not just a certain place. I agree that it is not racist. You gotta Integrate to Immigrate.
But how are people supposed to integrate when they are put in areas with only refugees and none Swedes? One of the major part of swedens big problem.
A lot of them do this by choice.
Lol no its not. The Swedish government select municipalities/areas where immigrants are going to be put. These are usually areas with high rise apartment buildings, high criminality, social problems and mostly immigrants. The Swedish government wants to keep the immigrants as far away from the Swedes so they put them in separate areas which have caused alot of problems.
RE: Discussion on Antifa - Random - 05-22-2017
Just going to go ahead and close this, as people can not keep this civil.