(05-07-2018, 09:19 AM)GHOSTK1LL3R Wrote: You can't expect the admin team to start a vote and then when the community decides against the admin team to pull a strop and go their own way.

Thats not how a public vote works.

(05-06-2018, 10:59 PM)Weezy_ Wrote: V4B1 let's go back

(05-07-2018, 12:18 AM)Pollux Wrote:

(05-07-2018, 12:04 AM)GHOSTK1LL3R Wrote:

(05-06-2018, 11:55 PM)Pollux Wrote:

(05-06-2018, 11:50 PM)JackZ Wrote:

(05-06-2018, 11:46 PM)Fultz Wrote: The main reason I want a map change is because I think v2p is too large for the current player base.

Pine is a good looking map dont get me wrong. But its going in the wrong direction. There is too much open space and buildings that are never going to be used.

Call v2d ugly as much as you want. But v2d is optimal with more than plenty of space to use for any rp you want.

Why do all the old, more experienced players wan't v2d? Because they know what's best.

Because you guys are stuck with your nostaligic feeling of when FL used to have three servers and V2D used to be extremely popular? I used to play back then too, I really don't want to go back. Your reasoning has been extremely poor for why exactly you like V2D and you've just resorted to attacking those who don't vote for it.

For someone so confident in your statements I find it amazing you're not voting for V5P considering you voted for that originally.

We've been in here for a long time, we know the shit the works. 

V2D works, not Pines.

Yes, I made the same mistake back then as all of you are now. I used to LOVE V2P a ton and played it mostly back when it was a thing. I realised that it's a very big possibility we may play on it again and as such voted for it, just remembering all the fun I used to have on it before. There's a reason that map died and a reason V2D died, I am not making the same mistake again and don't want everyone else to. We were promised better FPS on V5P and look what we have now - the FPS is going to be poor regardless of map, it's the gamemode where the issue lies. It's not really that big of a factor everyone is making it out to be.

(05-07-2018, 09:33 AM)Yonno Wrote: Bless you Nevy.

I feel like this whole "V5P is shit" issue would never have been an issue if the gamemode was actually more optimized. I wholeheartedly agree with Nevy that V4B1 and V5P would be complete superior maps if we would be able to get better FPS. 

Why not attempt to tackle the elephant in the room and just attempt to provide us with better FPS by optimizing the gamemode, rather than doing this trial and error with a new map that has a clear split in votes, leaving almost 50% of the community unsatisfied with a map change.

(05-07-2018, 09:38 AM)JackZ Wrote:

(05-07-2018, 09:43 AM)Yonno Wrote: All this "this map will win" bullshit is clear ignorancy, as the community is NOTHING like it used to be back in the days on V2D, the same goed for Pines City expectations. People try way too hard to shove their opinion down others' throats and it's genuinely stupid to me.

How do you as an individual, know, how the rest of the community perceives the map? Some opinions of your friends? How do you know the individual players' wants and needs? Stop speaking for everyone else, your opinion is entitled to yourself, not everyone else. This shit feels just so stupid to me.

A simple map vote will not leave people satisfied. We have to actually give each individual map on this list a chance, rather than simply jumping the gun from a poll.