Allowed Or not?

[Demonic]

You know the bank of America on V33X Right? Are you allowed to have Weed pots and grow them there As long as you still do your /job? Because I heard ur allowed to contra etc as long as you do ur job... Some admin I think VENOM not entirely sure was a long time ago. Said my dupe was okay which was A shop in one of the things across BP with 3 floors and the third floor was basically a secret floor (had keypad) to go up and I had my contra there and I believe it was venom that said It's okay as long as I do my job... So I'm confused... Because I just got banned for "Basing" in MAinstreet while I was doing my /job and I had weed pots. Are you or are you not allowed to do contra/pots while you still are doing ur job?

EDIT: Also the pots were just behind the wooden door in the bank...

[equal]

It's hard to give a response on this situation as it really depends on the actual situation and how it's executed.

However, I am going to assume that you were a black market dealer, if this is the case; As far as I am concerned black market dealers are not even allowed to have a shop in the public as the merchandise they sell is illegal.

Now, I am going to assume that you had a shop, if this is the case I don't understand the fact that you were banned for basing. I mean, if you had a legitimate job which is allowed to have a shop in public and you fufilled all the responsibilities that this job may have, you didn't, as far as I am concerned, break any rules.

Like I mentioned above, it's hard to say since I weren't present.

[TheImpossibleTruster5]

No, you are not allowed

[equal]

You are allowed to have contra if you do your job; However not as chef or doctor. It needs to be realistic, if you know what I mean.

[BlackDog]

No, you are not allowed

It is not blanket sweep not allowed pagen, and never has.

Its all based on the situation, BMDs are full well allowed to have "shops" though depending on how they operate it can lead to an arrest. Many a time I have operated a pub or mail service as a BMD as a front while the shady part of the business was always in the back, this is known as moonlighting. 

The same can be applied to chefs and other sales jobs, they are not allowed to base "construct a structure or use a property for the sole purpose of constructing defences to defend your contra with a fanatical ferver" but so long as they are doing their jobs, what does it matter in an ooc sense that they are cooking meth in their basement? 

ICly of course such actions will lead to an arrest, but the "Do not base on the main road" policy was enacted to prevent the sole use of those propertys for contra bases, as back then we saw ALOT of those,entire strips of storefronts dedicated to people fortifying and guarding with weapons their contraband and weed, many just shooting people who got to close. These days they are not used for purely contra based activitys, but if a player is infact useing it for a shop and contra/weed, they are doing so while also doing a primary job to cover the fact they are comiting a crime in the back room. 

I have seen more than a few that hide their illegal activitys in plain sight, but no one ever notices 

[equal]

What I meant when I said that black market dealers coulnd't have shops were; They aren't allowed to have a Black Market Dealer shop, meaning a shop that purely sells black market items and has those items on display if you catch my drift.

Other than that, BlackDog pretty much summed up the base rule, that was in question.

[Old Man Jokhah]

Base rule 7,

Job rule 5

Base Roleplay guide :Black Market Dealer
The black market dealer works on that ambiguous line between being a legitimate market
trader, and being a criminal. The black market dealer has one of the widest choices of goods
to sell, including a variety of narcotics, kevlar, keypad crackers, breaches, and hostage ropes.
Whilst being a black market dealer doesn’t automatically make you a criminal, the police are
well aware that they sell illegal goods - and so you should avoid selling contraband in public,
unless you want to spend time in jail!

Feedback provided by Veteran Adman on a related post :

Now, you say BMDs cannot set up a shop, you have to be clever here. Having a massive sign saying BLACK MARKET DEALER or advertising the same is obviously failing slightly, but most drug dealers or other people who deal in the black market would either have a front or do it remotely. In regards to the 'front', you could do as Ghost said and set up a flower shop, or any other shop - perhaps keeping a back room for legitimate customers interested in your other wares. As far as I am aware, you CAN have contraband, as long as it isn't all you do. Perhaps owning a large area and then making the front of it a legitimate sales area, in the back is where you grow weed and use your contraband; as long as it is sufficiently far away so that the police cannot hear it, you cannot be raided. I will state again that if anyone raids you because they 'think' you have contraband then that is against the rules, you either have to see it or hear it.

You also mention the neutral ground etc. There are hundreds of ways to roleplay a BMD, and a mobile salesman is one of those ways. Yes you would probably use a mule, perhaps you can. I roleplayed a BMD who used a security guard as a mule to meet customers in a neutral place. You could even meet them in a neutral area, stated beforehand in PM for the 'drop'.

Obviously, a lot of his wares 'illegality' depends on current law. No-one 'sells' the actual contraband [Printers/Drug Labs] so everything else is up to the President. I will reiterate that you seem to have had a bad experience with cops raiding you illegitimately. 'Killed because he refused to open a door' sounds like rulebreaking to me. Always remind them, and gather evidence if possible, to attain a search warrant for a VALID reason. Because you're 'dressed' as a BMD would be metagaming/assuming too much and is NOT valid. However, this also links to earlier and so if you are the one advertising 'GET DRUGS AND SHIZZLE AT MEH BMD STORE' or have a huge BMD outside your 'shop' then that is where the 'raiding' comes from.

To surmise for all this, the 'Shop' rule is to prevent shops in the legitimate sense, similar to gundealers. By all means have contraband, as long as you don't 'base' [See above] and by all means have a shop as long as you roleplay it correctly; this is where the donor suits come in handy.

[Nevy]

He was a civilian running a casino and just put about 30 pots in the back.

[equal]

If his job weren't "Citizen" then I really don't see why, OP was banned.

[Demonic]

It's hard to give a response on this situation as it really depends on the actual situation and how it's executed.

However, I am going to assume that you were a black market dealer, if this is the case; As far as I am concerned black market dealers are not even allowed to have a shop in the public as the merchandise they sell is illegal.

Now, I am going to assume that you had a shop, if this is the case I don't understand the fact that you were banned for basing. I mean, if you had a legitimate job which is allowed to have a shop in public and you fufilled all the responsibilities that this job may have, you didn't, as far as I am concerned, break any rules.

Like I mentioned above, it's hard to say since I weren't present.

I was a "Casino Owner" I'l give a picture of the place I had when I return home I'm currently at school. I had 13 Pots, I had a rp reason that was "I go crazy without a lot of weed" Staff can check my PM's with PResident 2 of them 1 was AdamH and idk other one.

This is what I had, the 13 pots were behind the wooden door, No security whatsoever... (I did not have any CONTRABAND!) Only weed pots. EDIT: I'm not exactly sure how this is basing neither? Could somebody explain to me what Basing exactly is? Because I thought basing was basically building with props etc to protect your stuff? But as you can see in the picture, I have literally no protection at all to get to the Pots?

http://i.imgur.com/lIcksbS.jpg