Report : GreeD^

[Greed^]

Case re-opened for further investigation.

18.4 Barricades must be made so that the attacker has a reasonable chance of victory.

The keypad is surrounded by shooting gaps. Do you feel like this gives the raiders a chance of victory, by any chance?

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I see plenty of room to hide, and actually, if you crouch, you cant be shot at all (tested it out)
Equally, as a policeman, you dont have to crack the keypad, there's other options (breach, ram etc)
Also, it gives the raiders plenty of chance, if they for example use tactics, instead of yolo-rushing, obviously raiders wont have a greater chance than the defenders

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Please load a gun and shoot him, and watch how he wont get damaged.

[Rylund]

Case re-opened for further investigation.

18.4 Barricades must be made so that the attacker has a reasonable chance of victory.

The keypad is surrounded by shooting gaps. Do you feel like this gives the raiders a chance of victory, by any chance?

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Please load a gun and shoot him, and watch how he wont get damaged.

Seems like it hits just perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ostw-nTyMQY

[Avgar]

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Crouching is specified here because it fits any situation, concerning aggressive RP bases. Whether it's crouch to enter a base or crouch to stand even a minor chance of a successful raid.

You clearly misunderstood that part, I am not FORCING anyone to crouch, and they're not forced to crouch to enter my base

Not forced to enter, but forced to crouch in order to stand a chance of making it inside your base via keypad cracking. Read the second highlighted part of my sentence.

[Greed^]

Case re-opened for further investigation.

18.4 Barricades must be made so that the attacker has a reasonable chance of victory.

The keypad is surrounded by shooting gaps. Do you feel like this gives the raiders a chance of victory, by any chance?

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Please load a gun and shoot him, and watch how he wont get damaged.

Seems like it hits just perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ostw-nTyMQY

Please do this on FL, not with other guns than the mad cow ones, also check the DAMAGE, It looks like he is hit, but it wont deal damage, same with my slums dupe.

[Rylund]

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Please load a gun and shoot him, and watch how he wont get damaged.

Seems like it hits just perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ostw-nTyMQY

Please do this on FL, not with other guns than the mad cow ones, also check the DAMAGE, It looks like he is hit, but it wont deal damage, same with my slums dupe.

This was on FL, it was the p288.

[FL] SnowredWolf [Citizen] has damaged [FL]ĐarkN00b [Mechanic] for 22 damages with weapon_mad_p228
[FL] SnowredWolf [Citizen] has damaged [FL]ĐarkN00b [Mechanic] for 22 damages with weapon_mad_p228
[FL] SnowredWolf [Citizen] has damaged [FL]ĐarkN00b [Mechanic] for 22 damages with weapon_mad_p228

The gun clearly damaged him multiple times.

[Greed^]

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Please load a gun and shoot him, and watch how he wont get damaged.

Seems like it hits just perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ostw-nTyMQY

Please do this on FL, not with other guns than the mad cow ones, also check the DAMAGE, It looks like he is hit, but it wont deal damage, same with my slums dupe.

This was on FL, it was the p288.

[FL] SnowredWolf [Citizen] has damaged [FL]ĐarkN00b [Mechanic] for 22 damages with weapon_mad_p228
[FL] SnowredWolf [Citizen] has damaged [FL]ĐarkN00b [Mechanic] for 22 damages with weapon_mad_p228
[FL] SnowredWolf [Citizen] has damaged [FL]ĐarkN00b [Mechanic] for 22 damages with weapon_mad_p228

The gun clearly damaged him multiple times.

Well your dupe isn't a perfect replica, but on my dupe, you can't be damaged at all

[Skummet]

I'd like to leave my oppinion.
For me this is a doomfort since i fail to see a way for the attacker to even get near to the keypay without getting shot, also the fact that u need to crouch while reaching the keypad not to get hit by the shots are to me a Doomfort.

[fieldy]

*Involved, I have used this Dupe with GreeD^ Before

In my Opinion this is not really a Doomfort in the sense that if you were have an Okay shot you could easily eliminate any defenders because of how open the defences are, you can get shot for 3 key spots. The Balcony below, the Road Below and from the Apartment itself. It is also possible to get in and out without use of the keypad via the climbing up Wall which faces the Nexus.

I must also note I do agree with Skummet and wasn't fully aware of the problem and till now.

[fieldy]

This is a doomfort.

Raiders do not have a fair advantage, the keypad is quite clearly surrounded by two shooting gaps, which forces the attackers to crouch.

I disagree, with the experience with this Dupe I'd say the attackers have an advantage due to the vast amount of spots they can shoot the defenders from.

[Rylund]

Well your dupe isn't a perfect replica, but on my dupe, you can't be damaged at all

We have now tested the exact dupe which you have, even with this dupe you're able to shoot people crouching next to the defense.

This is while looking towards the defense, you're able to shoot the person.
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This is looking towards the keypad, here you'd also be able to shoot the person.
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This is from the side-window you have in the dupe, where you'd also be able to shoot people crouching behind it.
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