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(08-16-2014, 01:26 AM)Enzyme Wrote:
Quote:General Rules

1. Using cheats, hacks or abusing glitches is under zero tolerance and will lead to a permanent ban.

Explain to me how you didn't break this rule, and then explain to me how it's unfair that you got 9 months when you could have gotten a permaban.

You got around banned props by tricking the system by spawning it as a button. This is exploiting.

It's very clear that it's not zero tolerance, or else any tiny exploitation would be instant permaban, you see people exploiting minor harmless bugs every day. For example exploiting animations to dance in cars, exploiting camera glitches to see through walls, clipping held props through walls etc. Even stuff used to disrupt roleplay like glitching through walls with chairs, spawning vehicles in areas they shouldnt be spawned, abusing hydraulics etc would face very minor punishments. Searching through the unban requests, with the exclusion of people exploiting to get items/money, most bans are from 1 week to 3 months. One case I found that was almost identical received a punishment of 1 month(http://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=37542).

Quote:and then explain to me how it's unfair that you got 9 months when you could have gotten a permaban.
As I've said, people doing similar things have received bans from 1 week to 3 months. Why should I get a 9 month ban and be told I'm lucky it's not permanent, while someone should recieve a 1 month ban for exactly the same thing. Is fair giving someone 9 times the ban length as someone else for an identical offence just because you technically could have permabanned them?

I caused absolutely no harm, and my only intention was to improve roleplay, if I had just joined the server for the first time with purely the intention to disrupt roleplay through prop killing, mass rdm, mass cdm etc, I would probably at most have gotten a 3 month ban. If I made no attempt to follow the rules whatsoever, I would only receive this punishment after maybe 10-15 bans. The length of the ban(and the fact that you're telling me I'm lucky I'm not permabanned) seems to be more jumping on an ability to hand out as harsh a punishment as possible on a technicality than actually attempting to be fair and look after the server.

How is it fair that those who only want to disrupt the server, or have no intention of following the rules even after their number of bans start to rival their hours on the server receive far less harsh punishment, but someone that has been following the rules almost perfectly for 3 years is told that they're lucky they're not permabanned for a harmless action?

Quote:You got around banned props by tricking the system by spawning it as a button. This is exploiting.
The particular prop in question was an AMRAAM, which is banned because it's explosive. Since it was a button, it was no longer explosive, so it's not too unreasonable to say what I spawned was not the prop, but just something identical looking. If this is bannable, where does the limit end? Would spawning a standard oil drum and materializing it to look like an explosive oil drum be bannable? Would constructing something almost identical out of other props be bannable? Where does this technically end? A drug lab model for example is not allowed to avoid people creating fake contraband, if I created one out of other props, would that be the same?


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ubr - by 5p carrier bag - 08-14-2014, 06:36 PM
RE: ubr - by Enzyme - 08-14-2014, 07:12 PM
RE: ubr - by ilmon3y - 08-15-2014, 02:16 AM
RE: ubr - by Fultz - 08-15-2014, 08:38 AM
RE: ubr - by 5p carrier bag - 08-16-2014, 12:45 AM
RE: ubr - by Enzyme - 08-16-2014, 01:26 AM
RE: ubr - by 5p carrier bag - 08-17-2014, 04:41 AM
RE: ubr - by Enzyme - 08-17-2014, 03:21 PM
RE: ubr - by WhiteFusion - 08-18-2014, 11:54 PM
RE: ubr - by 5p carrier bag - 08-20-2014, 04:23 PM
RE: ubr - by ilmon3y - 08-27-2014, 11:37 AM
RE: ubr - by ilmon3y - 09-01-2014, 06:37 PM
RE: ubr - by Enzyme - 09-01-2014, 09:34 PM
RE: ubr - by 5p carrier bag - 09-02-2014, 12:40 AM
RE: ubr - by Fultz - 08-30-2014, 01:26 PM
RE: ubr - by 5p carrier bag - 08-31-2014, 07:42 PM
RE: ubr - by Fultz - 09-02-2014, 12:30 PM
RE: ubr - by 5p carrier bag - 09-06-2014, 03:17 PM
RE: ubr - by Venom - 11-26-2014, 04:34 PM

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