(02-17-2016, 07:55 AM)Avgar Wrote: The problem with GHOSTK1LL3R's video is not only that the dupe is a replica and not the actual one, but also because it only shows that it is possible to HIDE in that corner, relatively, while most likely facing directly down or into the corner.
That is true, my dupe is not a replica. I was only attempting to show however that it is possible to hide in the corner which is one
possible way to raid the base. It is
no means the only way you can raid the base.
(02-17-2016, 07:55 AM)Avgar Wrote: What is not shown, is the act of keypad cracking the keypad from that position, something that would reveal the player in such a way that they could be easily shot.
Why would there be the need of showing keypad cracking the prop? When was the last time you ever used a keypad cracker in a raid? In-fact, when was the last time you ever saw someone use a keypad cracker in a raid? They are slow, loud and clunky in the inventory. Additionally,
there is no rules saying that you have to keypad crack while in relative safety. There is also more than just one way to pass the props. As stated multiple times, this is not a valid argument. It is not supported in the rules nor is the only way to get through the props. Also, your other argument and only argument is passing the props. When in fact, you don't even need to pass the props because as you can see from Greeds dupe there are openings in the props to allow the attacker to shoot the defenders.
Here are a few examples that cops have on offer:
Cops can firstly bait a reload from the attacker(s) and then proceed to push towards the prop and hit the keypad with an arrest baton which will therefor allow the fading door to open and can be face to face with the attackers.
Cops can decided to take the gunfight(as they can shoot the attackers as much as they can shoot them) and kill the attackers when the attackers are trying to kill them
Cops can get the SRU to flashbang next to the props which will blind anyone near the focal point of the said flashbang. Once the flashbang is thrown, the sru/police then proceed to rush the base and place a breach on the prop. They then can do /detonate or shoot the breach thus removing all props from the attacker.
Here are a few examples that citizens have on offer:
Get a Molotov out and throw the Molotov thus burning the props.
Out frag the defenders which is a very simple task.
Your points Avgar have
zero backing in the rules and additionally you are making it out like Keypad cracking is the only way to enter this base. However, as I have just presented to you from the of my head. There is
atleast 5 different possible ways you can attack that base without the use of a keypad cracker.